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Unread post by ForeverYoung » Fri Jul 02, 2021 6:54 pm

Another one of Amber Heard's motions is DENIED. This is getting embarrassing for them. :biggrin:
https://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/circuit/s ... 9-2021.pdf
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Unread post by AdeleAgain » Sat Jul 03, 2021 6:45 am

I hate to keep on at this but when did she make 7 million for a film? If she did she surely could have paid off her charity pledges. When they divorced as we all know she was earning 10k a month and she spent 40k. Hmmm how on earth did she fund the difference - when we all know (because she said it) that she would never take money from JD.

Sorry it's off topic - but either Elon is the father or she wants us to believe her is - otherwise why reference "4 years ago".

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Unread post by AdeleAgain » Sat Jul 03, 2021 7:01 am

https://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/circuit/s ... 8-2021.pdf

I am just reading this now and couldn't wait before sharing - oh my goodness it is poetry. Thank you Lbock for posting on twitter. If you ever have dark moments keep this nearby and read the first part. It absolutely will make you feel resolute that he should pursue this.

Why on earth is she withholding submitting her devices to check her metadata? Surely she would not have presented false metadata to the UK court?

She will no doubt get away with her perjury but she shouldn't. And if JD's side can prove that her metadata is false, I suspect that is a whole different level of seriousness on the perjury. He side may argue all they like about what she actually meant by saying she donated her entire divorce settlement; they can argue about things like her being 'allowed' a car or not. But if that metadata was knowingly tampered with ......... geez!

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Unread post by Lbock » Sat Jul 03, 2021 8:28 am

Her reference that four years ago I decided I wanted a baby is a clear reference and validation in my opinion of those embryos. I believe Elon paid her alot of money and maybe promised influence to have the embryos destroyed. I think that’s the tie that binds them. So I don’t think this baby is his; but she clearly is suggesting it.

Also if you go by the dates. The surrogate conceived during the UK trial. I think she planned for it for jury sympathy as the trial was set for this past May 17. Everything she does is quite calculated. She had no acting prospects anyway.

I also firmly believe she was out of AQ2. She didn’t fit the costume for the Snyder cut reshoots and she joked about it. No workout before shooting. I think she knew her Mera days were done.(which also tied into why the baby. No acting in her prospects once those tapes came out). Anyway, it wasn’t until after Johnny’s appeal was denied that she suddenly was gun-ho posting AQ2 hashtags. Not even working out yet. I think Elaine used the UK judgement to threaten WB to get her role back and it worked. And AH grabbed it with no thought to the baby. I don’t Think she has brought three or four nannies with her (none work 24/7). I think she left the baby with her sister and took off as fast as she could.

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Unread post by Lbock » Sat Jul 03, 2021 8:38 am

Lots of filings finally. I’m weary for the future. Elaine is intentionally bogging down the courts with motion after motion. I don’t think Judge Azcarate has the time to deal with this given the backlog of Covid. After closely watching the TMG case I fear that discovery Conciliator will come back on the table. If so, so much will be kept from the public. Judge White was against it, but I don’t think he expected an additional year long delay.

Anyway enjoy Ben’s answers

06/28/2021 Plaintiff's Opposition to Supplemental Plea in Bar https://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/circuit/s ... 8-2021.pdf

06/28/2021 Plaintiff's Motion for Sanctions https://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/circuit/s ... 8-2021.pdf

There was another hearing yesterday for additional “motion to compel” by Heard. Here Ben’s opposition specifically mentions Elaine making Johnny’s confidential financial records public. Even if the protective order allowed this, once they are marked Confidential there must file to declassify them.

06/25/2021 Plaintiff's Opposition to Motion to Compel
https://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/circuit/s ... 5-2021.pdf

We already know the judge ruled against Heard’s motion to compel in these following motions but denied to sanction either party. https://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/circuit/s ... 9-2021.pdf

06/17/2021 Plaintiff's Opposition to Motion to Compel and for Relief https://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/circuit/s ... 7-2021.pdf

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Unread post by Lbock » Sat Jul 03, 2021 10:36 am

I'm finally getting through the documents.

AH brought a motion and requested sanctions because they claim Ben did not send over prior depositions of Tracy (from TMG and Bloom). It was shown that, in fact, Depp team did and Judge Azcarate denied their motion and no sanctions.

In this link starting at Page 110, you will see a portion of the current deposition. Most of it is filled with Elaine showing pictures from the UK trial (obv to implant the idea into Tracy that Johnny was a major druggie and therefore could have abused AH)
https://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/circuit/s ... 7-2021.pdf

In Ben's opposition, he noted that Elaine only used 4 hours of the deposition time and left 3 hours on the table. Elaine ended the deposition early. See page 4
https://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/circuit/s ... 7-2021.pdf

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Unread post by AdeleAgain » Sat Jul 03, 2021 11:51 am

Lbock all fascinating thanks so much. I think you are right on the baby and on the AQ2 issues - she forced her way in, I presume (I hope) after sacking JD they will at least set it up so she can be written out if needed. I also hope it is needed.

Will be fascinating to see if the baby is in London with her. She will claim she is keeping it private but come on - she will not be able to resist walking down the street having tipped off the paps if she can.

I wonder also how this all fitted in with her moving out of her house. I am also now thinking ACLU are paying her legal fees (with Elon's money of course) - and to be fighting and fighting like this they must be concerned about reputational damage or worse. Also did I see she is asking for the personnel records of the police officers - again.

I felt very disheartened earlier this week. It knocked me seeing her back in AQ2 even though she's been showered with negativity, and even though it is much better for JD's position that she was not sacked. It just feels so wrong. But having read the BC piece I feel hopeful - maybe that in the future the UK wrong will be righted as well. To repeat my theory - if she knowingly had that metadata changed that is just so serious, a request could be made to the director of public prosecutions. Patience, patience, patience. Happy 4 July weekend to all our American friends.

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Unread post by fireflydances » Sun Jul 04, 2021 1:21 pm

I ran across this article on the internet. UK newspaper. Quite interesting.

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Unread post by hollyberry » Mon Jul 05, 2021 4:35 pm

I have to say over here in the UK he has a lot of supporters - people are horrified that Heard has a child, and are genuinely concerned for the baby's welfare.

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Unread post by Lbock » Mon Jul 05, 2021 4:41 pm

hollyberry wrote:
Mon Jul 05, 2021 4:35 pm
I have to say over here in the UK he has a lot of supporters - people are horrified that Heard has a child, and are genuinely concerned for the baby's welfare.
Even after the verdict? Good to know

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Unread post by AdeleAgain » Mon Jul 05, 2021 5:28 pm

Lbock - the verdict was a real shock in the UK - I mean for most people - no one could believe it. He is still very supported. Most people don't know the details of the case but what has really stuck is the defacating on the bed incident - plus the Sun is considered highly untrustworthy. No one has forgotten the phone hacking and the way they got away with it. Everyone expected Rebekah Brooks and others to go to prison - it was just shocking and disgraceful - and it isn't over.

AH is absolutely loathed - it is very hard to find supporters among the general public.

The UK media is firmly against him (except for the Daily Mail which has the biggest readership).

But public trust in the media is at an all time low.

So City of Lies, Barbarians - all rated number one on the streaming channels.

I think perhaps the other thing to say is no one here in UK really knows who she is - other than the woman who took a cr*p on JD's bed. I don't watch much TV so maybe she is in the L'Oreal adverts but I've never seen her - I have only ever seen her picture on a L'Oreal stand once (in a very down market super market). I actually went to check it out the other day - a huge L'Oreal display which had everyone else but not her.

Really interesting that Amanda Platell wrote what she did. Platell is exactly the kind of feminist who has supported AH (and she was horrid about JD in the article). But the impression AH has bought a baby will not play well here.

So yes - you can shout loud and proud that you love JD in the UK and it's fine.

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Unread post by Lbock » Mon Jul 05, 2021 5:32 pm

Yay!

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Unread post by AdeleAgain » Tue Jul 06, 2021 4:44 pm

This is worth a watch - some info and texts here I hadn't seen/heard of before.



This is a timeline of the 15 December 2015 incident from well before she was on the James Corden show. There is supposed to be a part two but I can't find it.

Fascinating so it's relayed chronologically - who AH was texting and who messaged her back (insofar as she has shared them) plus photos she took and when. I need to watch again but a few real stand outs for me.

1. The set up is unbelievable including texting back and forth to her parents claiming she's been beaten up by JD. And yet when they finally split her parents are texting JD telling him they love him. Most parents don't behave like that if they think their daughter is being abused. AH literally is telling everyone that she's being abused - I thought she had kept it secret.

2. I so want to hear from the medical staff. AH told nurse and doctor JD had beaten her - yet no one intervened to get her to safety. They gave her advice on how to manage her anxiety and prescriptions for mental health conditions. Now I think it is incumbent upon medical professionals to intervene when they believe someone is in danger - so my only conclusion is that no one thought she was in danger. The way they write it up - they were treating AH psychologically. From looking at this - either they knew she wasn't being abused and she was lying or delusional or they spectacularly failed to do their jobs. Weirdly nurse Erin seems inappropriately close to AH, yet she writes that she cannot see the injuries AH is claiming. It is beyond weird.

3. AH tells (I think its a nurse) that between 2 and 4pm she will be having her make up done. And yet, photographs of her supposedly beaten face were taking during that time frame. We've seen the photos - lots of dark marks etc and yet no swelling.

4. She still seems very friendly with LilyRose, even planning on seeing her - less than one day after LR's father supposedly beat her up. I wonder when their relationship changed - I suspect it was that Christmas on the island.

I am sure there are many, many more notable points but those ones really struck me - especially (2).

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Unread post by AdeleAgain » Tue Jul 06, 2021 4:46 pm

Found part 2:


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Unread post by Lbock » Tue Jul 06, 2021 4:50 pm

Lbock wrote:
Sat Jul 03, 2021 8:38 am

There was another hearing yesterday for additional “motion to compel” by Heard. Here Ben’s opposition specifically mentions Elaine making Johnny’s confidential financial records public. Even if the protective order allowed this, once they are marked Confidential there must file to declassify them.
Oops Ben, unfortunately Stirg found this... There was an order in January de-classifying these documents as confidential
Well, Jezz - Elaine has been burying them in motions, something was bound to slip through. No harm-no foul. Ben just won't file for sanctions. (He said he would visit it later)
Darn:
https://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/circuit/s ... 5-2021.pdf