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Unread post by AdeleAgain » Wed Apr 29, 2020 5:14 pm

Thank you Lbock for posting the documents. I am sure people have said it before on here a lot, and I sort of clocked it but I guess I needed to actually see it - not one of the three conspirators (AH, Raquel or iO) mentioned calling the police or them arriving - much less the fact that the saw no evidence of a crime. Then AH in a later declaration said the police pointed at her face and said something had happened and offered to go and arrest him - complete contradiction to the police officers' testimony. It is just plain stupid.

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Unread post by justintime » Wed Apr 29, 2020 7:13 pm

AdeleAgain wrote:
Wed Apr 29, 2020 5:14 pm
not one of the three conspirators (AH, Raquel or iO) mentioned calling the police or them arriving - much less the fact that the saw no evidence of a crime.
Thanks for pointing that out, AdeleAgain. Such a slick evasion on all parts. I was one of those who never questioned who called the police, I’d just accepted that it was Raquel who’d made the call since she was the one in the hall closet the whole time (not in her rent-free penthouse with fiancé Josh, as originally alleged, ahem...).

With everything unraveling so quickly, exposing all manner of layered lies, and all of AH’s camp having enormous difficulty referencing correct dates, times, places, etc, I guess it’s finally dawning on the three conspirators (aka “pranksters“) - and perhaps four, if Whitney is neck-deep rather than knee-deep in this sludge - that making a call to the police, falsely claiming violent domestic abuse was in progress, could be extremely problematic to explain away without serious repercussions.

The possibility of the police really showing up seems to have caught the lot of them blinking - then, and to this day. AND, has led a panicked AH to concocting and adding all sorts of increasingly horrific new scenarios to her follow-up, fixed-up, ramped-up “declarations”. All of which has Kaplan running around in circles whining over and over again about nothing substantive, sorrily because she has nothing substantive.

No wonder no one is owning up to actually making that call . . .
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Unread post by Lbock » Wed Apr 29, 2020 7:42 pm

That’s always been my thinking. “Caught off guard”. If AH and RP actually believed the 911 call was made, why didn’t they rough up the place and put red makeup on her face. I’m thinking it’s as IO said. He called 911 in NYC. Had his friend Lauren (Shapiro) call who didn’t really know much including if the street was N or S and didn’t really want to get involved Then NYC sent the teletype of IO call which triggered the second visit. Again, another surprise

I do think they then decided to spill some wine and tipped some things over and take photos to show that the police lied Incase it was found that they came. No police report and not mentioned in TRO statement. I think they hoped no one would know. ‘The police missed all this, see we have pictures’ which Kaplan specifically complained about her lawyers that they weren’t shown to the LAPD during depositions

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Unread post by RumLover » Wed Apr 29, 2020 10:18 pm

Had they put red makeup on Heard's face, then the police would have insisted on seeking medical attention and the lack of actual injury would have been revealed.
There have been cases of women who injured themselves and the blamed someone else. I have wondered why Heard didn't make a cut or bruise on her own face. Was she too vain? Was she too pain adverse? Would it have meant she had less bargaining position to trade privacy for penthouses etc. Would it mean the police would investigate and past violence be revealed?

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Unread post by AdeleAgain » Thu Apr 30, 2020 3:35 am

All very interesting thoughts - sometimes I think the people on here have more clue about what unfolded that night that the hoaxers!

I've always been perplexed by the calling the police, but I suspect they didn't realise that these days the police insist on investigating when they visit. Or maybe iO wasn't supposed to really call 911 and AH just shouted it for dramatic effect. Maybe they didn't realise the police wouldn't be fobbed off at the door.

It is very clear however that the perjury and wasting police time are building into serious issues. Mr Waldman has let this build. Which one of them is going to be able to sit in their deposition and make sense of what they originally said and fit it into the facts?

Of the three, iO didn't ever claim to actually see anything other than aftermath so I suppose he can now claim he was misled (although curiously still forgot to mention the police call in his original declaration - oh well, he'll probably get away with that since it is an omission rather than a lie of commission).

Raquel is in a more tricky position. Her own ex husband and two security guards contradict her story about going to the flat, forgetting her key, popping back etc. She didn't walk past Jerry and Sean who were standing at the door, and her ex-husband says she was not in the apartment they lived in. Now it sounds like she may have made the call to the police (I would guess that Adam Waldman is certain of that, from the way the story has appeared - in a situation like this the Daily Mail will be wary of making claims - even alluding to them - if the facts don't back it up).

Looking forward to Brian's next instalment.

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Unread post by meeps » Thu Apr 30, 2020 3:44 am

Oh, reading your last possibility, RumLover, I do wish she had either hit herself or had one of the others hit her! Not because I want anything psychical to happen to her, but because the police then might have checked, and found out about her violent behaviour already back then.
Yes, they might initially have believed her. But Johnny had a lot of eyewitnesses on his side, and the whole thing could have been unravelled then and there instead of him having to suffer through Hell for years.

I don't want anything psychical to happen to her. But I do want everybody to see her for what she is, and have her live with that!

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Unread post by AdeleAgain » Thu Apr 30, 2020 6:07 am

Justintime - on the clump of hair - I am certain when I read Kevin Murphy's statement he said "time stamp and data photo" of the hair. Funnily enough ALL of the photographs submitted in JD's evidence have the metadata - because let's face it - why wouldn't you. If you take a photo with your phone or a digital camera - it automatically has the metadata. Why would you not submit that? Unless you don't want to be specific about the time the photo was taken because - oh I don't know - you are staging something either long before or after it is supposed to have happened. Literally what other explanation is there?

Again, once this gets to court or deposition, much like the "have you ever lied under oath or in an official document" question which the hoaxers are going to struggle with - "why haven't you submitted data on ANY of the photos" is going to get asked.

I am driving myself mad because every time I think about this I come back to the fact that any half decent lawyer has to tell AH that she cannot subject herself to further questioning under oath. Unless she wants to come completely clean. Not only is she facing a mountain of genuine evidence, which would be bad enough, she lied under oath. The whole situation is crazy.

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Unread post by In-too-Depp » Thu Apr 30, 2020 7:15 am

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Of pleasing others, at his own expense

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Unread post by ForeverYoung » Thu Apr 30, 2020 8:48 am

AdeleAgain wrote:
Thu Apr 30, 2020 6:07 am
Justintime - on the clump of hair - I am certain when I read Kevin Murphy's statement he said "time stamp and data photo" of the hair. Funnily enough ALL of the photographs submitted in JD's evidence have the metadata - because let's face it - why wouldn't you. If you take a photo with your phone or a digital camera - it automatically has the metadata. Why would you not submit that? Unless you don't want to be specific about the time the photo was taken because - oh I don't know - you are staging something either long before or after it is supposed to have happened. Literally what other explanation is there?

Again, once this gets to court or deposition, much like the "have you ever lied under oath or in an official document" question which the hoaxers are going to struggle with - "why haven't you submitted data on ANY of the photos" is going to get asked.

I am driving myself mad because every time I think about this I come back to the fact that any half decent lawyer has to tell AH that she cannot subject herself to further questioning under oath. Unless she wants to come completely clean. Not only is she facing a mountain of genuine evidence, which would be bad enough, she lied under oath. The whole situation is crazy.
Amber seems to still have this crazy idea she can save her reputation. :nosmile: :no2: :mad:
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Unread post by Chocolat » Thu Apr 30, 2020 9:42 am

ForeverYoung wrote:
Thu Apr 30, 2020 8:48 am
Amber seems to still have this crazy idea she can save her reputation. :nosmile: :no2: :mad:
Even Johnny told her in the audio that it was too late for that.
Could be the reason she's in hiding.
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Unread post by Lbock » Thu Apr 30, 2020 10:22 am

I believe the reason she has gone silent, is because in order to get her private testimony for The Sun, she claimed she was terrified of the media and was receiving so much hate on Social Meda. Now she has to walk the talk. You can't complain you are terrified but still call the paps and post.

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Unread post by ForeverYoung » Thu Apr 30, 2020 10:59 am

There are rumors she took a fit and then checked herself into a rehab. I heard she went quiet on social media. I can't see because she didn't like my comments and blocked me. :lol:
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Unread post by Lbock » Thu Apr 30, 2020 11:03 am

I saw that comment on the DM article and recognize the account who is also on Twitter. I don't think this account is reliable. My personal opinion

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Unread post by ForeverYoung » Thu Apr 30, 2020 12:47 pm

Is she posting on instagram or twitter? If not, I would say that is very unusual even for her. No outings anywhere she would call the paps and we all know how she needs that attention.
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Unread post by Lbock » Thu Apr 30, 2020 12:51 pm

I understand, but per The Sun lawsuit part of her argument to give testimony in private is because she is terrified of media and fans. So engaging in SM would be opposite of what she is claiming. She turned off comments, but people continued to comment about her posts on Twitter and via reposts on IG. IMO