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Unread post by lauralestat » Fri Apr 12, 2019 5:20 pm

Page Six is posting photos she's releasing of the closet J. supposedly destroyed:

https://pagesix.com/2019/04/12/photos-s ... ds-closet/

So I'm guessing the NDA is pretty much gone at this point?

Edited to add: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... ymailceleb
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Unread post by RumLover » Fri Apr 12, 2019 10:01 pm

justintime wrote:This might be the first major news network (ABC News owned by Disney, I believe, and The Associated Press) to go the way of the tabloids - all AH’s story and no mention of the evidence Johnny’s submitted. Where have all these new photos come from? Are they accompanied by verified metadata?



Does anyone know the order of the still-pending suits? Has a date even been set for the SUN lawsuit or for this one for that matter? Is there a preferred order? I would think a settlement in Johnny’s favor vs AH in this defamation suit would be invaluable in winning the SUN case.

And is there ANY wording that could shut her up for good AND prevent the constant, tabloid/social media rehash of all her claims (lies) in future articles (movie reviews, etc.) Can Johnny ever recover from this viper’s viscious lies?
I would expect the Sun case to happen before the Virginia case. The Sun case was filed in July 2018 and The Sun's attempt at a stay was rejected in February. I do not expect the Sun to settle. Heard's claim that she could not be a witness for the Sun due to NDA was rejected by judge and now her divorce statements are public record. Heard has filed 200+ pages in Virginia in her response (http://www.documentcloud.org/documents/ ... smiss.html) including her August 2016 deposition transcript, so expect The Sun to pursue their truth defence.
The Virginia case was filed March 2019 and will first need to be accepted by Virginia system after Heard lawyers want it dismissed as they say it should be in California.
The Rocky Barnes location manager case may happen before the Sun. I think this is important for Depp's reputation and whether he is violent. I don't expect Depp to settle unless Rocky Barnes publicly retracts his accusations.
The Depp v Bloom (lawyer) will likely privately settle but could take some time.
(I am not a lawyer and my predictions have been wrong many times in past few years.)

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Unread post by justintime » Sat Apr 13, 2019 3:06 am

Thank you, RumLover, for taking the time to make sense of my jumbled questions and for posting the link to AH’s response to Johnny’s suit against her.

That was quite a disturbing read. I’m amazed (but shouldn’t be, I guess) by AH’s detailed, second by second “recall” (fabrication?) of events that allegedly occurred back in 2014/15 as contrasted to her bumbling recount of the more recent May 21st, 2016, incident in her long avoided August deposition. This is all her account; we’ve yet to hear from Johnny re: anything prior to that one date.

What looms as most concerning is the seemingly logical argument against the case going forward in Virginia instead of California and therefore establishing a “convenience” basis for dismissal. If the case is dismissed in Virginia does that mean it is a done deal and cannot be refilled anywhere else?

Lastly, I sure hope AH’s response doesn’t embolden Rocky into pressing forward. Also, can the SUN reference AH’s divorce statements and deposition in its truth defense pursuit since they were not yet public record when they published their defamatory “wifebeater” article?
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Unread post by meeps » Sat Apr 13, 2019 3:14 am

Amber has come up with more evidence - or whatever ... This is a hard one to read, so if it gets deleted I won't protest. But I am setting it up because, according to this, Johnny might lose Grindelwald as well as Jack ... As for the leaked text - I don't know what to think :no2:


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Unread post by meeps » Sat Apr 13, 2019 3:19 am

I just have a question to any doctors or nurses out there: if Johnny really used drugs and alcohol that hard, then how could he keep on working? Let alone living ...

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Unread post by gipsyblues » Sat Apr 13, 2019 3:22 am

All these strange photos she may have subsequently made, are not real proofs. I also noticed that the handwriting on the wall is not Johnny's. He has a very different spelling !!! She is a bad liar and unscrupulous.

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Unread post by lauralestat » Sat Apr 13, 2019 3:31 am

gipsyblues wrote:All these strange photos she may have subsequently made, are not real proofs. I also noticed that the handwriting on the wall is not Johnny's. He has a very different spelling !!! She is a bad liar and unscrupulous.
To play devil's advocate, if he was drunk or high, I don't think spelling is a priority, and his handwriting could be "slurred" as well.
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Unread post by gipsyblues » Sat Apr 13, 2019 4:20 am

lauralestat wrote:
gipsyblues wrote:All these strange photos she may have subsequently made, are not real proofs. I also noticed that the handwriting on the wall is not Johnny's. He has a very different spelling !!! She is a bad liar and unscrupulous.
To play devil's advocate, if he was drunk or high, I don't think spelling is a priority, and his handwriting could be "slurred" as well.
lauralestat ..... are you a real fan? :perplexed3:
Johnny's handwriting is very characteristic, special and unmistakable. I believe, that font is not Johnny's. :nosmile:

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Unread post by lauralestat » Sat Apr 13, 2019 4:28 am

gipsyblues wrote:
lauralestat wrote:
gipsyblues wrote:All these strange photos she may have subsequently made, are not real proofs. I also noticed that the handwriting on the wall is not Johnny's. He has a very different spelling !!! She is a bad liar and unscrupulous.
To play devil's advocate, if he was drunk or high, I don't think spelling is a priority, and his handwriting could be "slurred" as well.
lauralestat ..... are you a real fan? :perplexed3:
Johnny's handwriting is very characteristic, special and unmistakable. I believe, that font is not Johnny's. :nosmile:

Uh, yes. Since 1990, thanks! I'm being realistic and logical. I know my handwriting is crap if I have too much to drink, same for spelling.
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Unread post by gipsyblues » Sat Apr 13, 2019 4:50 am

lauralestat wrote:
gipsyblues wrote:
lauralestat wrote:
To play devil's advocate, if he was drunk or high, I don't think spelling is a priority, and his handwriting could be "slurred" as well.
lauralestat ..... are you a real fan? :perplexed3:
Johnny's handwriting is very characteristic, special and unmistakable. I believe, that font is not Johnny's. :nosmile:

Uh, yes. Since 1990, thanks! I'm being realistic and logical. I know my handwriting is crap if I have too much to drink, same for spelling.
Ok :-) .... it is good that we have different opinions. In any case, I want to emphasize that I believe Johnny. On this way, I wish each of us here on the zone a good time. :namaste:

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Unread post by RumLover » Sat Apr 13, 2019 4:58 am

justintime wrote:Thank you, RumLover, for taking the time to make sense of my jumbled questions and for posting the link to AH’s response to Johnny’s suit against her.

That was quite a disturbing read. I’m amazed (but shouldn’t be, I guess) by AH’s detailed, second by second “recall” (fabrication?) of events that allegedly occurred back in 2014/15 as contrasted to her bumbling recount of the more recent May 21st, 2016, incident in her long avoided August deposition. This is all her account; we’ve yet to hear from Johnny re: anything prior to that one date.

What looms as most concerning is the seemingly logical argument against the case going forward in Virginia instead of California and therefore establishing a “convenience” basis for dismissal. If the case is dismissed in Virginia does that mean it is a done deal and cannot be refilled anywhere else?

Lastly, I sure hope AH’s response doesn’t embolden Rocky into pressing forward. Also, can the SUN reference AH’s divorce statements and deposition in its truth defense pursuit since they were not yet public record when they published their defamatory “wifebeater” article?
The Sun's lawyers have a copy of the deposition and have used it as an Exhibit in their case. Johnny's witness statement quotes from exhibit LC1 (LC being News Group lawyer) and the quotes and paragraphs match the divorce settlement document. I expect they will use it. They will also want Heard to testify. She tried to refuse testifying by saying she was prevented by the divorce NDA but that is blown now. The Sun lawyers are probably emboldened as they don't have to prove the May 2016 events which Depp can disprove so they might concentrate on another event to justify their statements. They might imply they have other sources of information. If Heard testifies and can get others to back her, then the Sun will be confident.

For Rocky Barnes case, the presumption of innocence in court means Barnes will need to prove what he accused Depp of really happened that night.
If it didn't happen, Depp would probably prefer the matter is completed publicly with Depp being innocent rather than have it quietly settled.

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Unread post by Newt » Sat Apr 13, 2019 6:38 am

I'm not sure why you would believe there's any truth to the claims meeps? I am worried by this Page Six/Daily Mail article, WB cannot POSSIBLY think that this will affect in any way the sequels. Some of the quotes in there have me baffled, did the people at WB not SEE the recent developments and the change of narrative in the way folks are now turning against Heard and supporting Johnny? To say that they fear the perception of WB associating with him is DISGUSTING, what about associating with Heard, what does that say?

Heard will go to her grave throwing lie after lie and more lies, all day, every day. It is frustrating to have to counter all those volleys knowing that there is incontrovertible proof of Johnny's innocence, the evidence is overwhelming, we might not know Johnny personally but we know of his reputation, of his behavior with fans, with cast and crew. Is it possible he may drink a bit too much sometimes? I guess it is, is it possible he defended himself against her? possible too and I wouldn't have a problem with it.

But this is utter nonsense, the scent of desperation is everywhere, WB better not cave, this has NO impact on the box office, HELLO BOHEMIAN RHAPSODY, anyone? It's clear to me that Jo, Yates standing by Johnny must have had access to the proof or KNOW what happened.

All this nightmare will be over at some point.


Oh my goodness, looking at those "texts" in the Daily Mail article is delightful, supposedly, she calls him Steve in her phone, so the texts are between "Steve" and her, Oh My Goodness, this is laughable, there's no actual proof that it's even him, not to mention that texts can easily be made up. Is she stupid?

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Unread post by Moonbeam » Sat Apr 13, 2019 8:19 am

Hi Zoners!! Love and peace to you all!!
I commented about 40 pages back on this thread. I do not feel that AH acts like a victimized person. I am a survivor, and I know how I react, for example, when someone walks up behind me closely. AH is merely feeling the affects of her lies backlashing on her, I believe. She is getting desperate, in my opinion.

This is a difficult thread to read, and I am not a moderator here, but let's please not speak harshly to one another, in any way. This is a heated discussion or debate, I know, but we are all here for our admiration of Johnny and to support him.

Personally, I have never believed her allegations; but that is my opinion, and we all have one. I feel that AH is pulling out all the stops right now. One thing that gets me most upset is that the social media raked Johnny over the coals but seem not to be treating AH in like fashion, especially in the light of all of Johnny's videos and depositions.

This thread is about violence and very difficult to digest. I care for the Zone and hope that we can discuss this freely, without repercussions among each other. Let's not let AH tear us apart. She, in my opinion, is a person who uses and manipulates others and situations to her advantage.
Peace, Zoners!!!
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Unread post by meeps » Sat Apr 13, 2019 10:08 am

Newt wrote:I'm not sure why you would believe there's any truth to the claims meeps? I am worried by this Page Six/Daily Mail article, WB cannot POSSIBLY think that this will affect in any way the sequels. Some of the quotes in there have me baffled, did the people at WB not SEE the recent developments and the change of narrative in the way folks are now turning against Heard and supporting Johnny? To say that they fear the perception of WB associating with him is DISGUSTING, what about associating with Heard, what does that say?

Heard will go to her grave throwing lie after lie and more lies, all day, every day. It is frustrating to have to counter all those volleys knowing that there is incontrovertible proof of Johnny's innocence, the evidence is overwhelming, we might not know Johnny personally but we know of his reputation, of his behavior with fans, with cast and crew. Is it possible he may drink a bit too much sometimes? I guess it is, is it possible he defended himself against her? possible too and I wouldn't have a problem with it.

But this is utter nonsense, the scent of desperation is everywhere, WB better not cave, this has NO impact on the box office, HELLO BOHEMIAN RHAPSODY, anyone? It's clear to me that Jo, Yates standing by Johnny must have had access to the proof or KNOW what happened.

All this nightmare will be over at some point.

Oh my goodness, looking at those "texts" in the Daily Mail article is delightful, supposedly, she calls him Steve in her phone, so the texts are between "Steve" and her, Oh My Goodness, this is laughable, there's no actual proof that it's even him, not to mention that texts can easily be made up. Is she stupid?
I don't believe, there's any truth in what AH says, Newt.

I am afraid though of what knee jerk reaction Warner Brother might have, if enough people believe in her lies and threaten to boycott Fantastic Beasts 3. Disney has earned I don't know how much money, because people love Jack Sparrow so dearly - but according to some newspapers, they still dumped Johnny over her accusations.
And now she's piling more on ...

But yes, I might be a worrywort :blush:

I do agree with you about Amber Heard probably never backing down.
And also agree with you about the text - to me most of it could be interpreted quite another way than AH and Daily Mail does it. Plus there's no guarantee, they're genuine and/or from or about Johnny.

For people though, who either don't like celebrities in general and/or Johnny especially, the further accusations with those texts added can be used as further 'proof' Not in a court of law, but in the Court of Twitter. (Read; the public opinion) And that might push the money men, who only worry about the bottom line, over the edge and get them to chuck Johnny out of his roles as Grindelwald, because they're afraid of not enough people will want to watch him in the role.

I am sorry for you, my sweet Moonbeam. I wish, we had happier things to talk about :heart2:
But I am quite willing to discuss the nasty things peacefully :love:

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Unread post by gipsyblues » Sat Apr 13, 2019 10:14 am

:agreesign: Moonbeam :namaste:
.....you are so right and your attitude is intelligent and wise. Thank you for your opinion. The most important thing is that we treat each other peacefully and it is good that we have different opinions. :heartflower: