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Unread post by justintime » Sat Mar 02, 2019 12:25 am

Ade wrote:Do you all think this is right - it's not that he's suing the Sun for 50 million? The reporting says that he cites the Washington Post article - just the way it's all written seems a bit odd to me.

Gosh some of the details - his shattered finger - is that the Australia incident? And he was blamed for delaying filming for drunken behaviour. Elon Musk a month after they were married. Awful, awful, awful.
First, thanks Sweeney Todd for posting The Press Gazette and The Blast articles today. I am, however, very confused; perhaps we’re spinning in the same circles, Ade.

The Press Gazette (1st article) is consistent with what we’ve been told so far: Johnny has initiated libel action against The Sun for calling him in unqualified terms a “wife beater”, both on line and in hard copy print. The online version was modified but too late to undo the damage of the initial viral impact.

The Blast (2nd article), whether in truth, ignorance, or in choosing to deliberately be misleading, suggests Johnny has filed a $50 million defamation suit against AH, herself! Given how fast and loose she’s played with the terms of the divorce-generated NDA, both verbally (slander) and in writing (libel), this would seem to be a long-festering, defamation slam-dunk. I do not believe The Sun is even referenced in this article.

Also, I thought AH was not even in Australia when JD hurt his finger - was that whole original story another AH elaborate lie? Should be easy to prove. What hell Johnny has been through! Fifty million bucks and exoneration beyond the shadow of a doubt doesn’t even come close to alleviating the unrelenting pain of the last three years. Fifty million of HER dollars, and a prison term might help . . .

Ruby Begonia, thanks for the QC explanation!
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Unread post by Ruby Begonia » Sat Mar 02, 2019 12:51 am

SnoopyDances wrote:
nebraska wrote:They met during the filming of "Rum Punch"? :facepalm:
:biglaugh:

Freudian slip, perhaps?
:lol: They've now corrected it to Rum Diary. What I like about this Blast article is that it's the only article I've ever seen that states she donated a portion - not all $7 mil - to charities. I've never seen any evidence that she donated anything close to $7 mil. Obviously, she gave some to the the ACLU (not a charity, btw) since they're supporting her. I believe the narrative that she invests/annuitizes in a way that she actually never loses a dime of the $7 mil despite the donations, which I would bet total $1 mil max.

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Unread post by Tara » Sat Mar 02, 2019 5:31 am

justintime wrote:Also, I thought AH was not even in Australia when JD hurt his finger - was that whole original story another AH elaborate lie? Should be easy to prove. What hell Johnny has been through!
Hope you don't mind me stepping in; I also find it's all a little sketchy. She initially claimed that the incident happened when while she was on the phone to him, that they started to fight and he threw the phone through a glass window causing his injury - she was allegedly in London filming the Danish Girl.
At some point, Suzanne Witkin potsed on her facebook page that the injury was caused by Amber herself. This post was removed, but not before a number of people saw it.
Later AH's story changed and she provided significant details of how the injury occurred, including how he then went on to daub the ''easy Amber'' message on a mirror in paint using his finger. Unless there was someone else who witnessed the incident and took photos of the mirror (and his finger), passing both on to her, she wouldn't have known what he'd done since by her account the latter happened after he'd thrown the phone.
I don't know if we'll ever learn the absolute truth, but I would not be surprised to learn that it was Johnny's idea to say she wasn't present - that seems to be his MO. This (Johnny's) account seems to be the most logical and fits in with SW's post (may be she was asked to remove it for this reason?) and AH's own stupid account putting her in the first person.

I hate to think of the full extent of Johnny's suffering at the hands of this vile individual.

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Unread post by meeps » Sat Mar 02, 2019 6:24 am

I don't mind you stepping in at all, Tara :love: Your explanation of things made it much clearer for me - I was not exactly spinning, but close :) ... like that --> :spin:

Anyway, to be more serious, yes, it would be consistent with the image I have of Johnny as a gentleman to say, that Amber wasn't present, when he cut his finger. Especially if she wasn't that caring and solicitous, and he's was embarrassed on her behalf to say that out loud ...
But that last bit is just me guessing, I know. :biggrin:

Her version with him throwing a phone through a window - now I can see him throw the poor innocent phone through the window easily. How would that make him cut his finger though? He would have to literally hammer both phone and hand through the window to do that, and even then I can't see how he could have cut the tip off any of his fingers by doing it ...
And by just throwing the gizmo - forget-about-it! His hand wouldn't have been near the glass, so it's simply not logical.

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Unread post by meeps » Sat Mar 02, 2019 6:49 am

And furthermore ...


Johnny Depp Claims Amber Heard Started Improper ‘Relationship’ With Elon Musk 1-Month After Marriage
March 1, 2019 at 12:40 pm PST
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Daniel Goldblatt, Gary Trock, Mike Walters

Johnny Depp claims he has proof that Amber Heard was spending some questionable time with Telsa founder Elon Musk during their short marriage.

As The Blast first reported, Depp sued Heard for defamation over an op-ed Heard wrote last year where she referred to herself as “a public figure representing domestic abuse.” Depp denies ever abusing Heard.

Johnny Depp Files $50 Million Defamation Lawsuit Against Amber Heard, Calls Her Abuse Claims an ‘Elaborate Hoax’
Johnny Depp has filed a defamation lawsuit against his ex-wife, Amber Heard, alleging her domestic abuse claims were “an elaborate hoax” and he is going after her for a whopping $50 million.

The lawsuit claims that shortly after their marriage, Heard began a relationship with Musk. “Unbeknownst to Mr. Depp, no later than one month after his marriage to Ms. Heard, she was spending time in a new relationship with Tesla and Space-X founder, Elon Musk,” the documents state.

Depp claims Heard received many “late night” visits from Musk at Depp’s residence and used the building’s personnel to facilitate the visits. He claims the “Aquaman” star asked staff at the building to “give her ‘friend Elon’ access to the building’s parking garage and the penthouse elevator ‘late at night.’”

Depp’s legal team claim they’ve deposed members from the building’s security team, and they testified to seeing Musk leaving the building the next morning after his alleged late night visits.

As for what sparked the relationship between Heard and Musk, Depp claims the first time he noticed the Tesla CEO at his home was after an argument with Heard over entering into a postnuptial agreement. He claims that specific argument led to the actress allegedly hurling a vodka bottle at him in anger.

One of the main reasons Depp is bringing up Musk is to prove his case that Heard was lying about being abused by the “Pirates of the Caribbean” star.

He also claims Musk was given access to his home to spend the night with Heard on the same night she “presented her battered face to the public.” They believe the entire claims of domestic abuse by Heard were an “elaborate hoax.”

Heard and Musk were first linked in 2016 as they each went through public breakups (Musk filed for divorce again from “Westworld” actress Talulah Riley in 2015). They broke up in August 2017 and then got back together a few months later … only to split again a few months after that.

In December 2018, Heard gave an interview with The Hollywood Reporter where she described her relationship with Musk by saying, “Elon and I had a beautiful relationship, and we have a beautiful friendship now.”

Heard has not yet responded to Depp’s $50 million lawsuit.
ME: That last line is not true anymore. AH claims, she won't be 'silence' and that Johnny's lawsuit is "frivolous"


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Unread post by In-too-Depp » Sat Mar 02, 2019 8:21 am

Thanks for posting, social media is all full of this now although once again main media isn't focusing on it. I'm glad Johnny has finally gathered all the evidence necessary to prove he was the abused and not the abuser. I think he's been wise to keep his head down and act with much more decorum than the snake aggressor. I'm sure this is a start to her trying to find ways to discredit him even more, she knows once in a courtroom she's not got much of a chance.

It amuses me that all the negative comments from those accusing him of just being after her money don't take into consideration that to get that money he needs to win. I'm sure this will be costing him alot in legal fees.
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Unread post by Sweeney Todd » Sat Mar 02, 2019 8:44 am

In-too-Depp wrote:It amuses me that all the negative comments from those accusing him of just being after her money don't take into consideration that to get that money he needs to win. I'm sure this will be costing him alot in legal fees.
Which just proves her supporters don't know how the law works.
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Unread post by meeps » Sat Mar 02, 2019 9:52 am

Does she at all have any money?
The way she was burned through Johnny's money, when they were together, and the 'fee' she demanded at the divorce, I would rather expect her to have tons of debt by now, when she's not together with Musk and his very deep pockets anymore ...

By the way; how do you think Elon Musk will react to getting mixed up in this :wavebye: ?

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Unread post by reindeermoon » Sat Mar 02, 2019 10:06 am

It seems that Elon Musk has enough problems without Heard. They have to close all the Tesla shops to save money. Tesla is not working as it should. And Musk made a comment about the number of cars they were producing which might be very interesting for the tax people.

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Unread post by ForeverYoung » Sat Mar 02, 2019 11:31 am

What I find interesting is that right after we learned of Johnny's injury Gina posted an IG thanking the medical facility there for taking care of her. It is very possible that she could have gotten hit by the glass when the bottle broke against his hand. I also was under the impression that Amber was in London when it happened but I believe Johnny. That "Easy Amber" story was all made up by her. There is no way someone could cut off the tip of their finger, dip it in paint and write something with not one drop of blood or evidence of blood on the mirror. She dumped one of her key "witnesses" Raquel whom she has been friends with over 15 years and Raquel isn't with the husband who she dragged to the apartment anymore either. No way does she have anything near $50 million because if she did she would be taking private jets everywhere. She just came back from Syria again (arrived in London yesterday) taking pics with kids and babies acting like some kind of savior.
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Unread post by Chocolat » Sat Mar 02, 2019 11:48 am

The cast of characters has indeed expanded with Elon Musk brought into the scenario earlier than we knew.
I'm also curious about his reaction to the reports about his secret rendezvous with AH. My guess is he will lay low and not respond since he has bigger problems to deal with at the moment.
Thanks to all you ladies for your comments and clearing up the confusing specifics. There's still a detail about the finger incident that we may never know the answer. At the same time Johnny was initially being treated for his injury, Gina Deuters posted on her Instagram a pic from the hospital. Did anyone see that back then? My memory fails me to recall if she was being treated for an injury or not because her comment was vague. The coincidence of both she and Johnny being in hospital at the same time always had me wondering if she was present and, who else for that matter, and knows the truth.
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Unread post by Chocolat » Sat Mar 02, 2019 11:55 am

Thanks Forever Young for your post. Didn't see it since I was posting at the same time.
Another detail I do recall is where AH's PR posted a retraction and one retraction only regarding the "painted mirror" business.
I saw the retraction somewhere in a news report online but then it was gone. I thought that weird that they would admit it being untrue and yet we still hear about it as part of the ugly details.
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Unread post by ForeverYoung » Sat Mar 02, 2019 11:59 am

Gina never said why she was there only responded that everything was good when people asked if she was ok and it was right around the time Johnny was seen boarding the plane with his hand wrapped.
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Unread post by Ruby Begonia » Sat Mar 02, 2019 12:36 pm

I remember reading that Gina's injuries were attributed to a go-cart accident. During filiming in Australia, Johnny was living at the compound of a famous race car driver who has a go-cart track on the premises. But of course that could have been a cover story.

The Sea Hag was in Australia at points during filming, before and after the dog incident. The story was she upset Johnny so much that they banned her from the Pirates set. She did film in Europe during that time for The Danish Girl but wasn't with him when he was recuperating at home in LA under his sister's watch. Then he and SCAMber somehow connected during that couple of days where he was rumored to be "missing" since he didn't arrive in Australia the day he was expected to resume filming, only to arrive with SCAMber (and her smuggled dogs) in a public show of married bliss. My guess is she wasn't planning to come at all and insisted on bringing the dogs last minute. Johnny was reportedly heavily medicated for recovery from surgery.

And it's rumored the terrible excuse for an actress got the Aquaman role either through Johnny (most likely) and/or by having " late night visits" with the producers/ star of that film. I did not see the film, but it would be simple to pick one of the many beautiful and much more talented redheaded actresses out there to step into the role; people saw it for Momoa, not her. Or just write a story that doesn't involve her character at all, and then she can't accuse them of dropping her from Aquaman 2.

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Unread post by justintime » Sat Mar 02, 2019 12:47 pm

My thoughts when referencing AH are no longer of a printable variety.

But, with regard to her finances, I wouldn’t think the 50 million+ number was chosen by JD’s team just for shock value. She’s probably been squirreling away his money for years in her own creations (e.g. her “Under the Black Sky, Inc.” registered in CA since 2009 and in TX since 2015).

I believe now and have always held there have been and still are - for the moment the rats aren’t scattering - very deep pockets from Hollywood to Chicago to Texas propping her up. She talks and behaves as though she is untouchable. JD ruminated a bit in that direction in the GQ article. “Elaborate hoax” is much too benign a description for what Johnny has lived through.

Disney has sure been outed as the vultures they are; for JD’s sake, still holding out hope that Jerry Bruckheimer has somehow kept his distance from this scheme.

Though it’s awful to think Ms Deuters may also have suffered at AH’s hands, I am selfishly grateful beyond belief she actually may have been present during the finger incident.
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