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Unread post by AdeleAgain » Tue Jan 12, 2021 5:22 pm

I totally get you Someareborn, but just to answer the Range Rover thing - this is one of several pieces of evidence Adam has shared - she was driving it, we saw earlier the accident report. I remember in the UK case she was pressed on this point and that grudgingly admitted later in the relationship she managed to get hold of a car to use. No love - you were give a car. Anyone see Johnny driving round in a Range Rover between 2013 and 2016? No.

I think he is pressing this because it is another example of her lying under oath which can be disproved. And as they say in the cops and lawyers shows - "goes to credibility".

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Unread post by Inquiring Minds » Tue Jan 12, 2021 7:18 pm

Many thanks for the corrections to the donations timeline. This is version 2. Special mention to Lbock, AdeleAgain, ForeverYoung and a timely, coincidental posting on twitter by Adam. Apologies if I have missed anyone.

Donations timeline - v2
2008 Elon Musk begins dating English actress Talulah Riley
2010 Elon Musk marries Talulah Riley
2012-01 Elon Musk splits up with Talulah Riley
2013-07 Elon Musk re-marries Talulah Riley
2014-12 Elon Musk files for divorce from Talulah Riley. Action was withdrawn.
2015-03 Elon visits Amber overnight in penthouse while Johnny is in Australia filming.
2016-03 Talulah Riley files for divorce from Elon Musk
2016-05-21 Staged false DV incident
2016-05-23 Amber Heard files for divorce from Johnny. Court grants her a TRO.
2016-08-16 Depp and Heard sign the Deal Point Memorandum resolving the issues surrounding the dissolution of their marriage. Claims supporting her previous TRO are withdrawn. [via Nic Wallis - Amber Heard Witness statement 1 dated 2019-12-15]
Joint statement issued including a pledge for the whole $7m to be donated
2016-08-18 Date Amber claimed in Look to the Stars that she donated the $7m.
2016-08-22 Look to the Stars reports that Amber Heard had already donated the whole $7m.
"Heard's actions were swift, and she gave the large sum away two days after her divorce was final"
2016-08-31 (on or before) Johnny donates in Amber's name:
$100,000 CHLA - paid directly by Johnny in Amber's name
$100,000 ACLU - paid directly by Johnny in Amber's name
Cumulative payout to Amber (to date): $200,000
2016-08-25 LA Times reports Amber's objection to Johnny paying the first installment of the donations to CHLA and ACLU.
From the article Amber is reported as saying:
[about Johnny donating the settlement directly himself] "that the actor should also donate the amount in its entirety immediately rather than have it be drawn out over many years."
and regarding Johnny's previous association with CHLA (although accurate concerning ACLU):
"newfound concern for charities that he has never previously supported"
2016-08-26 Amber "calls out" Johnny for making a direct donation to CHLA and ACLU (in her name) - metro.co.uk
2016-08-26 Amber Heard pledges $3.5m to CHLA via Edward White, Edward White & Company.
2016-01-16 Depp pays Heard $1,000,000 (within 3 days of settlement - 2017-01-13)
Cumulative payout to Amber (to date): $1,200,000
In addition Mr Depp had to pay $500,000 for Amber's legal fees and
her outstanding personal debts incurred over the period of their marriage - $6,750,000. The settlement was tax-free (to Amber, Johnny would have already paid full tax on this money).
2017-02-01 Depp pays Heard $1,000,000 (on or before this date)
Cumulative payout to Amber (to date): $2,200,000
2017-05-01 Depp pays Heard $1,000,000 (on or before this date)
Cumulative payout to Amber (to date): $3,200,000
2017-06-01 Elon Musk anonymously donates $500,000 to CHLA (but not in Amber's name, via Vanguard Charitable). [Docref: CHLA000001-000144.pdf]
2017-06-09 Elon Musk anonymously donates $500,000 to ACLU (but not in Amber's name, was not meant to go through Vanguard Charitable). [Docref: ALH_00010358-10392.PDF]
2017-06-20 Romero (ACLU Executive Director) acknowledges a previous donation of $350,000 from Amber and the $100,000 already donated by Mr Depp in Amber's name. He also references $500,000 donated by Elon Musk (see 2017-06-09 ) and "codes" it in their database as a credit towards Amber's pledge (total: $950k). [Docref: ALH_00010358-10392.PDF]
2017-07-18 ACLU send Amber Heard a letter acknowledging the anonymous donation of $500,000 on 2017-06-09 that had been made on her recommendation.
2017-08-01 Depp pays Heard $1,000,000 (on or before this date)
Cumulative payout to Amber (to date): $4,200,000
2017-08-01 Amber Heard splits up with Elon Musk on or around this date.
Hearsay says that Elon bugged her Tesla and was not pleased with what he heard.
Then from Wonderwall:
A source told The Daily Mail, "It's all over between Amber and Elon and she's devastated. It was his decision. He ended it a week ago. He'd heard certain things about her behavior that didn't sit well with him."
Musk later admitted that he was heartbroken over Johnny Depp’s ex-wife, telling Rolling Stone of their first split, “I was really in love, and it hurt bad. Well, she broke up with me more than I broke up with her, I think.”
2017-11-01 Depp pays Heard $500,000 (on or before this date)
Cumulative payout to Amber (to date): $4,700,000
2018-01-01 Amber "reconciles" again with Elon Musk (on or about, using W Magazine timing)
Reported by PageSix on this date
2018-01-09 Elon Musk anonymously donates $250,000 to CHLA. The donation cannot be used to fulfill any pledge, be publicly acknowledged or used as a tax deduction (via Fidelity Charitable). [Docref: ALH_00010358-10392.PDF]
2018-01-09 Elon Musk anonymously donates $250,000 to Art of Elysium. (via Fidelity Charitable, "on behalf of Amber Heard")
2018-02-01 Depp pays Heard $2,300,000 (on or before this date)
Cumulative payout to Amber (to date): $7,000,000
Final payment.
2018-02-01 [a source close to the couple:] “Elon and Amber broke up this week. Elon made the decision to end things, and Amber agreed."
2018-02-02 W Magazine reports Amber Heard breaks up with Musk after "a mere month"
2018-05-07 Elon Musk and Grimes reveal they are dating
2018-12-19 Heard publishes her defamatory op-ed piece in The Washington Post.
2019-03-01 Depp sues Heard over the Washington Post article.
2019-06-26 CHLA asks Amber if she is going to honour her pledge of $3.5m. Acknowledges that a first installment (only) had been made.
2020-01-08 Grimes announces she is pregnant with Elon's and her first child
2020-02-26 Amber Heard's third witness statement (UK trial) claims (at item 4) that
"the entire amount of my divorce settlement was donated to charity".
2020-05-04 Grimes gives birth to a son eventually named X AE A-XII
2020-07-20 Amber Heard swears before Justice Nicol of the UK High court that her third witness statement (dated 2020-02-26) is true. [line 19, page 1517, UK court transcripts ]
2020-12-11 Confirmation received from CHLA that Amber did not make the $3.5m donation.
2021-01-01 Adam Waldman publicly confirms that Amber did not make the donations.
2021-01-08 Amber's lawyer, Bredehoft, claims the reason she hasn't donated yet is because it's all Johnny's fault. She claimed donations she had bullied others to make in her name as her own donations.


If Elon had any doubts that he wasn't just a "filler" he should look at 1st August, 2017 (2017-08-01). On or about the time a cheque is received from Johnny she breaks up with Elon. At the time it was believed that he dumped her, but in retrospect, Elon said "she broke up with me more than I broke up with her, I think.”

But just to hammer it home, on 1st February, 2018 (2018-02-01), having settled for Elon again and filled some more time with him, (on or about) the day Johnny sent his final payment of $2,300,000 she unceremoniously dumped him again! This was after just one month (approx)!! But looking back to her previous payment from Johnny at the start of November 2017, she only received $500,000, half the previous quarterly payments. She was probably running out of cash and Christmas can get expensive...

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Unread post by ForeverYoung » Tue Jan 12, 2021 7:23 pm

Someareborn wrote:
Tue Jan 12, 2021 3:47 pm
I hope her lawyers will get sanctioned. They are wasting recources.

The more evidence surface, the more I get paranoid how AH will spin it or wiggle her way out of the situation.
Newest Addition, is the time travelling SMEG fridge. Adam showed the receipt that it was purchased a year (?) later than AH claimed. But maybe they just replaced an old SMEG fridge with a new SMEG. Grrrrr!
Same with todays receipt of the Range Rover. AH could claim that JD only put himself onto the insurance and that she extra needed to ask to be put too. Adding to her "he-is-controlling-me-narrative".
I am getting paranoid that all the receipts will be questioned, doubted and ignored again in VA - but I want the case to be bulletproof and still can see loopholes for her lawyers. :mad2:
Honestly I don't think these things will be brought up again but I guess we will see.
AS for the fridge - Johnny's property manager or whoever orders the appliances could most likely make a statement or testify if there was another SMEG fridge prior to that one.
As for the Range Rover - Johnny bought that in trust for her so technically is was probably put in his name on the insurance and she only asked for her to be put on the policy after she cut off his finger and he was getting treatment in the US. Maybe she thought he could die and wanted to make sure she was tying up loose ends before that happened. Who knows. That mind of her's is a scary place. :hills:
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Unread post by Granna » Tue Jan 12, 2021 7:27 pm

Does anyone know about WHEN AH. & Musky were in Mexico AFTER the UK Trial? Is Musky still with Grimes? Or should we expect another dating round between them? Curious.

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Unread post by ForeverYoung » Tue Jan 12, 2021 7:32 pm

Granna wrote:
Tue Jan 12, 2021 7:27 pm
Does anyone know about WHEN AH. & Musky were in Mexico AFTER the UK Trial? Is Musky still with Grimes? Or should we expect another dating round between them? Curious.
They were supposed to have been in Mexico after the UK decision came out but it is also believved that he was there to promote his new Tesla Tequila.
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Unread post by ForeverYoung » Tue Jan 12, 2021 7:35 pm

I guess AH and her team didn't like JD's opposition to her motion. WA WA WA!!!!!!!!!

New subpoenas:

Christi Dembrowski
Sean Bett
Stephen Deuters
Walt Disney Pictures Group
LAPD Discovery Section


https://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/circuit/h ... file-cases
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Unread post by RumLover » Tue Jan 12, 2021 10:24 pm

Depositions for January 2021 based on subpoenas on Fairfax site.
Correct me if I have any wrong.
Person deposedCalled byDate of subpeonaDate of Deposition
trinity esparza Heard 10-Nov-20 08-Jan-21
action-property-management-irvine Heard 10-Nov-20 12-Jan-21
action-property-management-la Heard 10-Nov-20 12-Jan-21
bianca butti Depp 22-Dec-20 12-Jan-21
brandon patterson Heard 10-Nov-20 12-Jan-21
alejandro romero Heard 10-Nov-20 13-Jan-21
cornelius harrell Heard 10-Nov-20 13-Jan-21
robin baum Heard 10-Nov-20 14-Jan-21
laura divenere Heard 07-Jan-21 15-Jan-21
christian carino Heard 07-Jan-21 19-Jan-21
jack whigham Heard 07-Jan-21 20-Jan-21
Dr David Kipper Heard 01-Dec-20 26-Jan-21
Debbie Lloyd Heard 01-Dec-20 27-Jan-21
tracey jacobs Heard 07-Jan-21 28-Jan-21

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Unread post by ForeverYoung » Wed Jan 13, 2021 1:15 am

Good Job RumLover :dillingerhello: These deps could be subpoenaed for these dates but nothing is set in stone because they are not court ordered. If JD's team or the people who got subpoenaed are not available on any of those dates the deps could get rescheduled to a later date or JD's team can do motions to quash them. This is just another hissy fit tactic her team uses to be bullies.
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Unread post by Inquiring Minds » Wed Jan 13, 2021 1:58 am

Excellent summary thank you RumLover :)

I've just been scanning twitter again and am seeing postings about Ben's response to Amber's compel (?) motion for discovery of Depp documents.

I seem to recall that one of these was for all the documents related to how much Team Depp have been paying we Russian bots and all the PR Agency fees for a "smear" campaign. And when Team Depp say "We don't have any because they don't exist" Amber goes into denial because she cannot fathom that Johnny's fans and supporters don't have to be paid to support him!!

When the contrast between PR spending on smear campaigns by both teams is disclosed, it should be immediately apparent who is the abuser. And as others on twitter have pointed out, publicly gaslighting and smearing the victim is just continuing the abuse.

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Unread post by AdeleAgain » Wed Jan 13, 2021 7:08 am

As I am sure one of you very wise observers said on here - you can tell what a narcissist has been up to by what they accuse others of having done.

I don't exactly know what's been going on on twitter but I read threads last night of Depp supporters posting photos of their gorgeous selves (and what a gorgeous bunch!) with their names, dogs, whatever else saying - we aren't hiding behind the key board. Honestly made me well up. I notice that AH's five or so stans seem reluctant to do the same or have I missed that?

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Unread post by Lbock » Wed Jan 13, 2021 10:01 am

Great collection of information from everyone. I think it is now crunch time getting depositions done

The only thing to add to timeline is sometime in October 2018 she announced on Dutch TV “the entire amount was donated. I split it between...”

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Unread post by Inquiring Minds » Wed Jan 13, 2021 3:11 pm

Many thanks again for the corrections and input. Lbock to the rescue again :) I will hold off on reposting the update for a day or two in case more corrections or additions are raised.

I tried to not put in every time she was claimed (in the press) to have made the donations - so many of them are just derivative of a statement made to a single source. The Dutch TV show stands out in that it is straight from her lying maw, and in full colour with moving pictures. I believe she actually named Johnny in that one too (but I will have to go back and check).

I did put her earliest claim to having ALREADY made the donation on the timeline - just days after the settlement was finalised. She has been making these fraudulent claims almost since day 1.

Also, a point to note. I scan twitter constantly but don't post, feel free to repost anything I put here, even claim as your own if you wish. The timeline I produced is also not mine (I produced it but I don't "own" it), feel free to modify and repost it yourself, but I am also happy to maintain. Post here or DM with corrections or additions. I also stopped it at the point she was revealed as lying and the excuse she proffered.

I've worked on some other timelines related to the lawsuits, but this case has so many elements and so many players, when they are all merged it becomes so dense it's nearly impossible to use.

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Unread post by Someareborn » Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:10 pm

Thank you, AdeleAgain and ForeverYoung to help me staying positive about the details of the case.
I guess when its all presented in one package, its easy to see through the lies. Lets hope his lawyers wrap it up perfectly for the trial.

Thank you for the detailed timeline! I get why Adam wants Elons' deposition so badly. I am curious why Elon supports or is still friendly with her. Anyone knows how/why Elon found his way into "Transcendence?"

I listened to the full audio recordings again and decided that I do not want to listen to the Toronto tapes when/if they surface. Besides her admitting to violent behaviour, it just hurts being a bystander, watching two people struggling with their emotions, desperatly looking for solutions when you know there is no way to out of this.
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Unread post by Lbock » Wed Jan 13, 2021 5:10 pm

Well. Look who was at Coachella In 2016.


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Unread post by Inquiring Minds » Thu Jan 14, 2021 6:11 am

Just going through twitter I saw something I hadn't picked up on before.

It was in some transcripts from the UK trial (Heard-Laws, pg 1556). Laws is asking AH about the Coachella 2016 trip. Just as a reminder, the previous night was her birthday party where he told her about being taken for hundreds of millions of dollars by his managers. Her response was to beat him up (with a "haymaker"), threw his phone off the balcony (with no doubt scant regard for the lives of anyone below), then when he fled from her violence she (or one of her cronies) shat in his bed.

It wasn't until the next day that the unpleasant surprise was found by housekeeping. That was when Johnny decided that the marriage was over. By this time she had already left for Coachella. It wasn't until the staged DV incident (21st May) that he told her of his intent to divorce her.

Back to the UK trial: she was being questioned about vomiting at Coachella and was trying to squirm out of admitting it, blaming Whitney. But when asked about the cocktail of drugs she had taken she said (line 20) "....while also going through a break-up" and at lines 24 and 25 (same page) she says ".....amidst a break-up".

Johnny hadn't signalled a breakup at that point (that we know of) and she had beaten him repeatedly without them breaking up previously. So why would she say that?

I'm thinking she had resolved on her own to break up with Johnny having discovered he had lost most of his fortune (that she intended to plunder). That or her sworn statements at trial included the victimhood of a breakup, something that wasn't true at the time but that she had added for the trial, long after the event, in order to garner sympathy.

Its a minor point, but shows how she perjures herself every time she opens her mouth in a court.