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Unread post by ForeverYoung » Sun Nov 15, 2020 2:00 pm

I know people are upset but the real person to blame in all this is Amber Heard and I believe karma will come for her. For us, maybe not soon enough but it will come. Johnny has won in the court of public opinion. Sure, the media will continue to trash him but that's the way it has always been. I am on the fence about an appeal. A higher judge must decide whether Nicol had good reason for his decision and who knows what kind of corruption lies in the higher courts. A lof of judges know each other through judicial events, law school, law firms, etc.
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Unread post by Granna » Sun Nov 15, 2020 2:15 pm

Forever Young:

We still have a few cards in the poker game - 1) Australia, 2) the VA trial. Hopefully, both of those cases will be settled, showing everyone including the UK Court what Heard really is. Chin up, sweetie!

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Unread post by Newt » Sun Nov 15, 2020 3:14 pm

I know some folks have an issue with Dan for some reason but he said he’s going to ask to have a sit down with WB execs. Won’t change anything but can’t hurt.

Some folks have wondered if the consequences of the libel trial itself are why he was fired or he couldn’t commit to the schedule, bla bla.

Seems incredibly dumb for WB to not consider the possibility (however unlikely it was) that the verdict could go the wrong way and scheduling Johnny to start shooting before the verdict.

I know some of you have moved beyond this and are focusing on the appeal and Virginia but I wonder if the response, the petitions taking off, Johnny’s rapidly increasing IG follower count and the overall outcry is making WB think twice.

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Unread post by AdeleAgain » Sun Nov 15, 2020 4:38 pm

Newt - I wish/I hope so. Not sure it will make a difference but Disney must surely be looking at the figures on all social media - including TickTock which seems to have had an astronomically positive reaction to JusticeForJohnnyDepp - and be thinking - hmmm if only we had a franchise to pull him in .......

One thing is clear - this is a very telling sign/moment that MSM have lost a lot of power. Two weeks now and this is still going strong - all driven by real people.

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Unread post by justintime » Sun Nov 15, 2020 8:52 pm

Just one example of all the coverup efforts being made to hide what’s already been established:



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Unread post by ForeverYoung » Sun Nov 15, 2020 11:34 pm

These people on twitter are good.



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Unread post by Chocolat » Mon Nov 16, 2020 12:14 am

Thanks to justintime and ForeverYoung and everyone who have posted these important graphics, quotes and additional information showing the corruption and cover up by Amber Heard and her legal team connections. All of this sinister injustice needs to be outed and repeated everywhere. This includes Warner Brothers Pictures and Disney for their unfairness and career damage toward Johnny.
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Unread post by gipsyblues » Mon Nov 16, 2020 12:53 am

:agreesign: Chocolat !!!

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Unread post by ForeverYoung » Mon Nov 16, 2020 1:02 am

And there is more...



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Unread post by AdeleAgain » Mon Nov 16, 2020 2:21 am

ForeverYoung - in suspense - the tweet has been deleted. Do hope whatever it was someone has kept as screen shot!

Petition update: removing AH now up at over 1,370,000 but hang on a moment because the keep-AH one is doing really well now! Climbed up to 5,700.

The remove one is slowing a bit obviously but I think there could be another surge next week when the appeal reasoning gets dropped - assuming we get to see it? At the very least I would expect a statement from the lawyers.

LostBeyondPluto posted this quite neat explanation which gives me a glimmer of hope that some fairness can be re-established and I can stop hanging my head in shame at the state of British justice:

"encouraging excerpt from court of appeal: It is axiomatic that an appellate court will rarely interfere with findings of fact of the trial judge. However, it will do so where Judge’s finding is unsustainable on the evidence or outside ambit of reasonable decisions on the evidence"

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Unread post by justintime » Mon Nov 16, 2020 5:49 am

Thanks, ForeverYoung, but it’s coming up as “This Tweet is unavailable” for me.

I sure hope Johnny’s UK Appeal Notice team, whoever that is, has people combing Twitter for a lot of missing puzzle pieces that seem to be popping up all over right now. If nothing else, even though these bits may not, by themselves, be admissible ( “new evidence”), they may provide acceptable links to already mentioned personalities (e.g, Jen Robinson, now being referenced as AH’s VA lawyer).

AdeleAgain wrote:
Mon Nov 16, 2020 2:21 am
...LostBeyondPluto posted this quite neat explanation which gives me a glimmer of hope that some fairness can be re-established and I can stop hanging my head in shame at the state of British justice:

"encouraging excerpt from court of appeal: It is axiomatic that an appellate court will rarely interfere with findings of fact of the trial judge. However, it will do so where Judge’s finding is unsustainable on the evidence or outside ambit of reasonable decisions on the evidence"
Wow, yes, AdeleAgain, that is a bright spot from LostBeyondPluto. Is that a very new video? I try to watch all her work - so straight forward and understandable - but may have missed it. Please, do you have a link? Thanks.

By the way, AdeleAgain, thank you for taking the time to respond to my Schillings diatribe the other day. You injected some rational thought into my emotional tongue-lashing. I have to say I never, ever expected Barrister Sherborne to give Nicol a dressing down at any point during the trial!

But as the trial progressed, it became obvious Sherborne needed more options in his pocket - the kinds of things heavy duty digging and extensive homework well before the trial may have provided. That is where I feel Schillings fell inexcusably short in not providing Barrister Sherborne and his Plaintiff with critical knowledge of and insight into its shady, at worst crooked, opponents.

All the connections now being floated surely were not beyond Schillings’ extremely impressive investigative branch. There was plenty of time between when Schillings came on board, and when the trial finally started, to give this case it’s due, to unearth precisely what Internet folks on Twitter are now bringing to light. Plenty of time to file subpoenas for all these smug, apparently beyond the reach of the law, pro-AH cretins now surfacing, and time at least to set the stage for taking the stand during the trial.

Anymore, I just don’t trust this system to grant Johnny the justice he so dearly needs and deserves. He put all his faith in it, endured pointless humiliation, and being repeatedly called a liar. Nicol made a mockery of the High Court’s credibility, summarily reducing Johnny himself to an annoying non-entity and his fight to one whose evidence was not worth considering, whose testimony was not to be believed, and whose witnesses never heard, saw, or contributed anything of value.
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Unread post by Newt » Mon Nov 16, 2020 9:23 am

Okay, this is interesting. There's been this rumor floating around for a while about Johnny as the Joker but so far, it had only been from dubious sources and fake news websites like WGTC. But now, DanielRPK, who's a scooper with a strong track record, is claiming that Johnny did have talks with WB about playing the Joker, but they stalled obviously when the verdict came. He says that the talks could resume IF Johnny wins in Virginia.

Also, Dan has said he's planning, once he's finished the research, to interview cast and crew for their opinions on the case and Johnny leaving. Then, schedule a sit down with the studio and decision makers who let him go, try to get specifics as to how they came to that conclusion, then present a new plan to achieve harmony and take a step toward REAL justice for an outcome we're all happy with given the circumstances. He doesn't know if they'll ever achieve TRUE justice but thinks they can get damn close, says to keep the faith.

This is far more than I expected and it's highly unlikely anything will come of it but if we can get some answers, other than "we stabbed him in the back", then it's worth something. I just hope he doesn't get into trouble with WB for probing.

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Unread post by ForeverYoung » Mon Nov 16, 2020 9:42 am

The tweet I posted was a screen shot of Nicol's son's friend's posting that he heard about the decision and was glad the ex won because he believed her but the time stamp was arouond 5:00 AM and the decision didn't come out until 10:00 AM. However, someone else was saying something about the timestamp that caused a discrepancy to it couild have been why it was taken down.

Here is the latest video from Lost Beyone Bluto. She is an attorney.

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Unread post by AdeleAgain » Mon Nov 16, 2020 9:49 am

Thanks Newt - I want to keep hope alive as I don't do well when all around is despair. JD should have at least one bash at playing the Joker, he was born to it - productions are all being delay so - just maybe ..... did you notice on JD's instagram about WFTB he referred to Robert Pattinson as a "friend".

One thing is clear - given the reactions on all social media platform but especially it seems TikTok (I don't know much about it but apparently its a phenomenal reaction to him) - the studios can be in no doubt as to his popularity.

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Unread post by Lbock » Mon Nov 16, 2020 9:50 am

Just a little history reminder for The Sun case and Johnny.

Johnny was originally represented by Brown & Rudnick of London. They are the ones who "inadvertently" sent over 70K+ texts, emails, docs to NGN. These include the Bettany texts, and god knows what else. They admitted their error and said these were for a different business case. As I recall, the Judge allowed many of the most scathing texts in. Of course, Depp's lawyers tried to bluster "well not in any of these texts, etc is Johnny admitting to harming AH"

Shillings replaced Brown & Rudnick sometime in February/March when this all came out and Sherborne came on board (as I recall). So they have been on the back foot from the beginning cleaning up someone else's mess.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... s-Sun.html


At a pre-trial hearing on Wednesday, Mr Justice Nicol heard 70,000 text messages were 'accidentally' disclosed to the defendants by Mr Depp's former legal team.

Adam Wolanski QC, representing News Group Newspapers, told the court the texts are 'very damaging' to Mr Depp's case.

The barrister said the messages included texts sent to actor Paul Bettany, in November 2013, in which Mr Depp wrote: 'Let's burn Amber'.