The Lawsuits Thread

[ShauniS]

But it's going to look bad for The Sun if she doesn't testify so I am imagine she will be told she'll have to.

Yes, she probably will.
But it's also going to look bad for the Sun if she does, I think ...
In my opinion she will either behave like a bored teenager, who think the grownups' questions are so lame, and they just don't understand anything. Or like a entitled Hollywood diva who can't believe the peasants don't know their place. And foreign peasants to boot.
Maybe even both one after another.

And the "foreign peasants" might not appreciate that

Oh my goodness, Meeps.....I have NEVER seen a more accurate description of Amber's attitude during the depositions, etc. You nailed it!

[MaryS]

What will be interesting though is Heard's reply to Johnny's complaint.

From that we might get a feel of what she intends to do.
Is she going to continue to double down on her lies or add more or pretend she isn't aware of the events, and how she manages to do this in a legal document without perjurying herself further.

Really this case should have been wrapped up a long time ago.

As for the *plea* or whatever it may be called in a civil suit, maybe not *temporary* but *all encompassing* insanity. Hahaha

Seriously, she's not well. And an

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[RumLover]

The Sun has made a truth defence so they have to prove Johnny was a "wife beater".
I don't think their defence is any easier if the wife claims she has been insane at times.

Mental illness seems a poor defence in a defamation case as it would not prove that what was written was true. If claiming temporary insanity when writing the article, then the question is why not retract and apologise when later sane.
Claiming insanity might reduce the malice or the damages but it would show the 'defamer' was unreliable.

[MaryS]

Rum,
I was thinking more on the terms of her finally admitting defeat, confessing, and her reasoning for the crime down to mental illness.

Not adding another layer to the case.

But I don't think she's ready to confess yet.

[ForeverYoung]

I think if Amber was going to use "mental illness" in any form it would have been brought up a long time ago. She is never going to admit to that but if Waldman gets her medical records and what kind of drugs she was taking that could be a different story. She obviously has some kind of behavior issue but she has been playing people for years now and even Jerry saw right through her and her attempts of manipulation.

As for the answer to Johnny's complaint against her, Kaplan has had more than enough time to prepare a response so there should be no excuse to delay that any further. Kaplan has already lost all the attempts to dismiss in lieu of an answer and right now that team is looking pretty silly and her buddy iO isn't doing her any favors right now either.

[MaryS]

You're right ForeverYoung.
Firstly, she's not a nice person.
Secondly, she has a mental illness.
Thirdly, Heard shouldn't be let off the hook because of her illness.

There are plenty of people with a mental illness who are nice people, and wouldn't dream of doing what Heard did.

And you're right, she's *aware* of her actions.

As for the reply, Kaplan wouldn't dare postpone.
If she's going to answer, she'll do it by the due date.

[MaryS]

I am not on twitter but Musk definitely is.

He's making his presence known by going around protesting the * fact * that he had an affair with Heard whilst she was still married to Johnny.

I wonder what number he'll be in the deposition line-up.
Adam said that IO is first.

[MaryS]

Personally, I think that this is the end of the road for Heard.
IO's and Musk's meltdowns on twitter show that Johnny's team is closing in or has closed in.
Depositions that her side doesn't want are inevitable. Cry Elon.


Yep, something is going down not tomorrow necessarily but hopefully soon.

[meeps]

In my opinion she will either behave like a bored teenager, who think the grownups' questions are so lame, and they just don't understand anything. Or like a entitled Hollywood diva who can't believe the peasants don't know their place. And foreign peasants to boot.
Maybe even both one after another.

Oh my goodness, Meeps.....I have NEVER seen a more accurate description of Amber's attitude during the depositions, etc. You nailed it!

Thanks a lot

[MaryS]

Hahaha. Just read it meeps.

Heard won't like it on the court stand because she won't be the one in control.
The Judge would be.
And one thing that narcissists hate is not being in control.
She's going to lose it.
Hopefully, her abusive self comes in
full view.
Even in her depositions, she wasn't fully controlled.
Watch the Judge wipe that smug look off her face which she had when she sat for her deposition.

Something is coming down the pipeline.
And probably not good for Heard.

[ShauniS]

There will also be no snack time so she can formulate her answers (lies) while chewing!

[Lbock]

5th Amendment, refusing to answer a question because it could cause criminal charges to be brought, or adversely affect me in another criminal investigation or case. Self Incrimination of a crime.

There is no 5th amendment in the UK, so can't claim that for The Sun. Once they agree to be a witness, they must answer questions (as I understand it) They can sit there and be silent, but then guilt will be inferred.

In a civil trial, she can claim the 5th per question and answer other questions. However, in a Criminal trial the jury is NOT allowed to hold that against the witness (assume guilt), but in a Civil Trial, they can infer anything from a witness refusing to answer including "well, if they won't answer, they must be guilty"

[AdeleAgain]

Lbock, thank you for that. Interesting. Did I imagine it that AH's lawyer said at the beginning of one segment "we've changed our minds we aren't going to plead the fifth?" I will have to spend the evening OD-ing on Brian's videos to find it. I just wish we could get to court or get it decisively over with in Johnny's favour. I am not sure I can take much more of the twitter rants!

[ForeverYoung]

iO and Musk are "testifying" on twitter and Adam Waldman is loving it.

https://twitter.com/adam_waldman/with_replies

[ShauniS]

iO and Musk are "testifying" on twitter and Adam Waldman is loving it.

https://twitter.com/adam_waldman/with_replies

It's really hard to wrap my brain around the fact that they would be so careless, but it's been fun to watch. They're digging themselves such a deep hole and Adam is right there seeing it all. I think they are well and truly screwed by the time they have their day in court.