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Unread post by Lbock » Tue Apr 14, 2020 1:06 pm

justintime wrote:
Tue Apr 14, 2020 11:54 am
Are Johnny’s lawyers privy to the specifics of AH’s new sexual assault claims?

Thanks, Lbock, for the tidy summary of all the hoax facts, threads, and players. It’s daunting, but theories are rapidly morphing into facts now. Been a very long time coming.
My understanding based on quotes I've read, His lawyers have read her amended claims and they have mentioned her "horrendous new claims". Adam would be aware also.

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Unread post by ForeverYoung » Tue Apr 14, 2020 1:25 pm

Just curious..why do you think AH is funding the lawyer fees? She is under no legal obligation do so. Maybe because one of them got a lawyer the others just followed along as a connection to her and the case. AH is not making any kind of real money right now and she hasn't worked since Aquaman except for a small role in a mini series. It could be someone else or organization paying the fees but not her, imo. These organizations where is a spokesperson for are going to look really bad if she loses the case so my opinion is that maybe they are the ones footing the bills and providing private jets. Then again, Rupert Murdoch owns the sun and his son James Murdoch is on the board of Tesla.
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Unread post by meeps » Tue Apr 14, 2020 2:05 pm

Yes, people do sometimes conspire - or with a nicer phrase work together towards a common goal. I don't know if that is the case here. It sounds like they are to me, but what do I know :biggrin:
One angry Amber supporter on Twitter though claimed that the fans over there are members of a cult, so I am sure somebody either has already talked about or will talk about us fans conspiring to let an abuser go free.
So maybe Amber also has a bit of help from her "friends" :)

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ForeverYoung wrote:
Tue Apr 14, 2020 1:25 pm
Just curious..why do you think AH is funding the lawyer fees? She is under no legal obligation do so. Maybe because one of them got a lawyer the others just followed along as a connection to her and the case. AH is not making any kind of real money right now and she hasn't worked since Aquaman except for a small role in a mini series. It could be someone else or organization paying the fees but not her, imo. These organizations where is a spokesperson for are going to look really bad if she loses the case so my opinion is that maybe they are the ones footing the bills and providing private jets. Then again, Rupert Murdoch owns the sun and his son James Murdoch is on the board of Tesla.
Yes, I honestly think it is one of the organizations funding some of the legal defenses. Its all way to complicated and interconnected. ACLU and Kaplan TimesUp have staked their reputation on her. This goes very deep. So yes, not specifically from AH pocket, just someone/people backing her.

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Unread post by RumLover » Tue Apr 14, 2020 6:59 pm

I have thought for a while that Melanie did not want to be a witness. It was the most likely reason for Amber's declaration referring to Melanie by her first name only. Did Melanie ask not the be named?
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Unread post by ForeverYoung » Tue Apr 14, 2020 11:06 pm

IDK but based on what I have seen the study and bedrooms are all upstairs which means he would have had to drag her down the stairs and then back up again and these pics come from The Sun. Funny old world an't it?
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ForeverYoung wrote:
Tue Apr 14, 2020 11:06 pm
IDK but based on what I have seen the study and bedrooms are all upstairs which means he would have had to drag her down the stairs and then back up again and these pics come from The Sun. Funny old world an't it?
https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/1 ... s-angeles/
The video says Kevindees.com. Kevin Dees was mentioned by Laura Divenere as the realtor who was showing the penthouses. In the audio transcript in The Hollywood Reporter last month, Laura said to Amber
"LAURA D: Kevin Dees is apparently not a nice guy. He's the realtor that was showing the place.
You didn’t even really meet him I don’t think.
AMBER HEARD: I don’t know who that—
LAURA D.: [think you had an altercation with him with the draperies. Remember?
AMBER HEARD: Altercation? I haven't even met him.
LAURA D.: I mean like it was an argument because the draperies were taken and he's the one that was trying to get the draperies back for the person that bought it


I can easily believe that Amber took fittings such as draperies that were meant to be part of the property.

Also notice that all of the kitchens are open plan - unlike the kitchen in the infamous cabinet slamming video. I think Amber followed Johnny to Swetzer Rd, where he went to vent alone.

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Unread post by ForeverYoung » Wed Apr 15, 2020 12:29 am

Absolutely.. that edited video was not taken at the apartment. No way.
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Unread post by ForeverYoung » Wed Apr 15, 2020 1:10 am

AH took a lot of stuff from the main apartment. IDK whether is was part of the divorce agreement or not but it was posted all over her IG including the bed, living room furniture, the white kitchen side table etc. Laura posted draperies with swans on them in the bedroom that she put there before she deleted her account.
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Unread post by ForeverYoung » Wed Apr 15, 2020 1:03 pm

ForeverYoung wrote:
Tue Apr 14, 2020 11:06 pm
IDK but based on what I have seen the study and bedrooms are all upstairs which means he would have had to drag her down the stairs and then back up again and these pics come from The Sun. Funny old world an't it?
https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/1 ... s-angeles/

Sorry..I meant to say the "video" was posted by The Sun.
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Unread post by Granny576 » Thu Apr 16, 2020 1:24 am

Missing three days. Imo. With AH life experience she will have no problem concocting one horrific sexually explicit 3 Day ordeal by the monster. Some day it will all come to roost inher own hen house., The three day difference in regards to Johnny's finger incident. The 8th vs. The 4th.:

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Unread post by Lbock » Fri Apr 17, 2020 10:18 am

So I've read back a bit on some of the court documents. Here is what my rambling brain has come up with:

1. In their initial motion (Amber) they emphatically state she had nothing to do with the title of the oped (I spoke up against sexual violence ) This is the first time Sexual anything has been introduced into her story. She did not correct it, or deny the title was wrong, in fact she retweeted it. I think she saw their "error" as a way to finally get accepted by MeToo so she let it slide. But in legal filings, she states Johnny can't claim defamation on that because it's not her title choice, she never wrote it. Essentially, she is denying any sexual violence, IMO

2. We see as the months go by, her side has filed for a blanket protective order. She has very sensitive evidence and she doesn't want to be vilified or embarassed in the press. Mention photos of her body parts. Well, why would her truth as a victim vilify her. They even blatantly blackmail Johnny with a Drug paranalia photo to get him to agree. She loses that bid. Everything is public as we've seen. (accept personal identification, bank numbers, medical records and, oh yes, her personal diary)

3. In the meantime, The Sun has stated she is a key witness and they have been pursuing her for evidence and testimony. She knows about damning evidence that no one else does - like the audio tapes. She dodges The Sun, I think, as long as she can. But she is a Fact Witness and The Sun can rightfully compel her. She has made a Legal Account of what happened to her and that was the basis of their article. Well, that is bad PR--Why wouldn't she want to voluntarily help. I think it's taken so long to announce she would give testimony because there have been some backdoor negotiation going on - like getting the Sun to agree not to sue her if they lose. I mean, she didn't ask them to write the damn article in the first place and they never interviewed her. Meanwhile, remember, she knows about some real damning evidence against her. I don't think The Sun had a clue that Johnny had REAL evidence. Surprise

4. I also think way back, she thought The Sun would settle AND the VA case would go first. Well, then VA got delayed and now she has to take the stand, under oath, no even to help herself. oops More negotiation.

5. Now we hear, finally, Amber will give testimony in person but wants to give it privately. DM reported this and a couple hours later it was removed. So the standards in UK are any witnesses who suffered DV, Sexual Violence, fear intimidation can rightfully request to give testimony in private and it is usually given-standard practice. I think she expected the judge to agree. So she has now gone on legal record of some horrendendous new claim to support her testimony in private. But OOPS, she didn't expect the judge to only allow that small portion of her testimony given in private. Lucky for her, the case is delayed. (Again, this motion was decided after the case was delayed, after her lawyers were touting that Amber would be on a plane that Friday). (In her big filing she does mention the big battle and he ripped her nightgown off but no mention of sexual violence)

6. Who knows at this point which case will finally go to trial first. But I think Kaplan and Amber are scrambling. And I think, The Sun has decided to not count on just Amber, and are overstepping her and are filing motions to compel her witnesses to testify (based on her VA filings, stories-Raquel saw this, Melanie saw this, etc). And as we see Laura D and Makeup Melanie DO NOT want to be involved. The Sun got lucky with a few text messages, but those audios are damning.

7. Anyway, Johnny is now on IG and blowing up with followers. Anytime Johnny has something good, Amber hits back somehow. Her filing is due by the 22nd. I wonder what additional smears she will add?

I guess I’m saying that she suddenly made up the new sexual claim specifically to get her testimony in private.

(Just ramblings resulting from isolation boredom and a nice chat with a Twitter friend. If you are on Twitter, I recommended @inkntime)
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Unread post by ShauniS » Fri Apr 17, 2020 11:12 am

@LBock........I agree. As soon as I realized Johnny was joining IG, I wondered what Amber might do to retaliate. The woman is unpredictable.....and a snake, so I don't put anything past her. :censored:

As for Johnny, I am thrilled to see him finally on social media and I think IG is the perfect outlet for him. I hope people are KIND so he'll stick around for a long time and feel the support of all of us who love him. :yahoo:
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Unread post by Granna » Fri Apr 17, 2020 11:26 am

LBock: 1) AH can "say" she had nothing to do with the title given to the op-ed. However according to Federal statutes because the byline says, "By: Amber Heard", under federal law she is held completely accountable for the content and title of that article.

Let us not forget, that she has written an additional op-ed here and there across the country. She will be held completely accountable for the content as well.

Understanding that in the legal system in the UK, those supposed victims of sexual allegations, do have the right to speak privately. However, I hope she is aware that she is going to have to prove her point it cannot be hearsay. I understand that some of her Witnesses May testify to something but she is going to have to back it up with some sort of medical records or pictures etc., otherwise the judge will not allow it.

I truly believe that AH and Kaplan will try their very best to make this a very bad smear campaign. Only because they know the end is very near.

I am sure that Adam Waldman and Ben Chew are fully prepared, with her own evidence to prove that she is lying.

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Unread post by Lbock » Fri Apr 17, 2020 12:05 pm

Yes they will and are.

This fake sexual abuse claim out of no where. Gets her a private testimony (not as much as she hoped) and smears Johnny. So it’s already started

‘I have something really terrible he did but I can only talk in private’. And Johnny denies whatever it is but can’t say what it is to the public and can not offer counter evidence.