The Lawsuits Thread

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Unread post by AdeleAgain » Sat Mar 14, 2020 8:40 pm

Goodness me, People are reporting on the Penelope Cruz/Winona Ryder declarations. I need a lie down.

https://people.com/movies/penelope-cruz ... ber-heard/

Ok it's not exactly a full expose to bring the reader's objectively up to date - but they are reporting it at least.

I saw on twitter yesterday that the Daily Mail article claiming AH would testify in London has been taken down - although I found it still online. I'm still wondering about this. If she appears, the barrister's first question is surely "Miss Heard, you've just taken an oath. Have you even lied before under oath?"

Answer A - yes (with a long explanation) to which the reply is, "then why should we believe anything you say now".
Answer B - no (with a long explanation) to which the reply is ....... "well let's have a little look shall we?" Cue - declaration, play tapes, witness statements, Australia case ...............

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Unread post by Ruby Begonia » Sun Mar 15, 2020 3:20 am

Report just in from Breitbart.com's Ian Hanchett:
During a press conference on Saturday, Vice President Mike Pence announced that travel from the United Kingdom and Ireland will be suspended at midnight on Monday, but Americans and legal residents of the U.S. in those countries will be allowed to return to the United States.
Is Johnny still in the UK? I guess he can remain until after the trial? What about Waldman, as I believe he attended with JD at the recent hearing? If SCAMber isn't there by midnight Monday, she won't be allowed to fly in.

If the courts remain open in the UK and the trial takes place, this article by Paul Magrath at Lawyer.com discusses how things would probably proceed there:

Coronavirus and the courts: how will a pandemic affect the conduct of litigation?
....Traditional courts require the attendance of litigants or, at the very least, the lawyers representing them. Often other parties such as witnesses are required to attend, as well as court staff and, of course, the judge. But in recent years an increasing number of civil hearings, particularly at an interim or preliminary stage, have been conducted wholly or partly via telephone or video links, and it has been possible to conduct even substantive hearings by video-conferencing technology without anyone being present in an actual court room.

This means that, in theory at least, the courts of England and Wales should be relatively well prepared, should the need arise, to conduct most if not all of their civil litigation by remote rather than physical hearings during the coronavirus epidemic....

Among other possibilities mentioned in the report, “court witnesses will appear by video in many cases under sweeping emergency powers to cope with coronavirus. The move is among special measures contained in a draft ‘beast of a Bill’ that ministers intend to rush through Parliament by the end of this month.”

The article goes on to explain that “video testimony is currently allowed in courts mainly to protect vulnerable witnesses from intimidation. Extending the permission to ordinary witnesses would cut the risk of transmission within the court. However, it could prove controversial with lawyers who say that it undermines their ability to cross-examine people and makes it harder for juries to decide if someone is telling the truth.”

The Bill has yet to be introduced – the article says it may appear “as early as next week” – but what emerges is that the temporary relaxation of procedure will cover criminal as well as civil litigation,...

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Unread post by meeps » Sun Mar 15, 2020 4:25 am

Great! For Johnny and us, that is :love:
Then she can't wriggle out of testifying with the excuse that president Trump has decided to erect a virtual wall in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean :)

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Unread post by AdeleAgain » Sun Mar 15, 2020 7:03 am

In the pre-hearing it was said that witnesses would be appearing via video link. The only question is if the courts can stay open. Adam Waldman doesn't need to be here in the UK, he can't argue the case - that will be done by the British barristers. His role would just be as JD's personal lawyer and really to bring everyone together to decide on strategy and speak to the press - which he can do remotely. I still somehow can't picture this coming to trial for the reasons I discussed last night. The Sun's case is so weak if they don't have AH as a witness - but then as a witness she is such a vulnerability.

The two testimonies' by Winona and Penelope are really PR - and yes I know AH's side wanted to hear from all his ex-girlfriends and co-stars, so I am not saying they are irrelevant - but the timing of their release I am convinced is to continue to press home the PR advantage. And it has worked - look how widely reported it has been.

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Unread post by Judymac » Sun Mar 15, 2020 1:28 pm

My guess on this is that she will probably testify on Video. Her testimony could also be postponed. Her testimony is too important to the case, to let her get out of testifying. A good thing about Amber Heard testifying is that she can not control her temper. The Barrister's (and in U.S. the attorney's) will ask her questions that expose her lies and make her very uncomfortable. She will have to answer the questions. At some point she will be tired of answering questions that expose her lies and she will lose her temper. Part of Amber's personality is that she likes to be in control, but she can not control the questions. She will lose her temper when asked hard questions and everyone will see the real Amber Heard.

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Unread post by ForeverYoung » Sun Mar 15, 2020 5:43 pm

Alan Waldman is not representing Johnny in the case against The Sun. Therefore, he does not need to be there. Trump has declared no international flights out of the US. I am guessing this includes private jets but I think Johnny is in the UK anyway and FB3 is filming on Monday, probably in Rio.
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Unread post by Lbock » Sun Mar 15, 2020 5:52 pm

ForeverYoung wrote:
Sun Mar 15, 2020 5:43 pm
Alan Waldman is not representing Johnny in the case against The Sun. Therefore, he does not need to be there. Trump has declared no international flights out of the US. I am guessing this includes private jets but I think Johnny is in the UK anyway and FB3 is filming on Monday, probably in Rio.
. From SM posts I think he is at his French estate. I think FB3 is filming in UK. They never actually filmed in France for FB2. It’s all done in the studio

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Unread post by ForeverYoung » Sun Mar 15, 2020 6:17 pm

He is probably better off at his estate in France away from the coronavirus. I know that nobody is safe but at least his estate isn't crawling with people like Hollywood.

Not sure where it will begin filming but there is talk of filming in Rio at some point.
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Unread post by ForeverYoung » Sun Mar 15, 2020 6:32 pm

This would mean if she wanted to be there she has to leave asap to the UK. Even though she wants to testify, she will probably The Sun to put up an all expense stay for her and a friend in a five star hotel until the trial starts on March 23 an throughout the trial unless it settles. However, once again, this is not about money but maybe Johnny would settle for his attorney fees and demand a public apology. I guess we will see what happens. The judge could also postpone the trial, if necessary. I don't know about the UK but a lot of places in the US are shut down for two weeks. Broadway, all sporting events, concerts, the casinos in Philadelphia and now there is talk of the casinos in New Jersey, for preventive measures.
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Unread post by Judymac » Sun Mar 15, 2020 6:56 pm

I disagree that Johnny should settle for attorney fees and a public apology. Her apology would be meaningless. She will absolutely never admit that the whole thing was a hoax. Even if she apologized I am convinced that she would go right back to pretending to be a victim of domestic violence. She is a dishonest person. She violated the gag order after their divorce. Unless she is exposed in court she will continue to play the victim.

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Unread post by Judymac » Sun Mar 15, 2020 7:02 pm

Who is SM?

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Unread post by Lbock » Sun Mar 15, 2020 7:06 pm

Judymac wrote:
Sun Mar 15, 2020 7:02 pm
Who is SM?
Sorry, Social Media posts like a Instagram. Gina and others

It’s been 5 days or so. He could be back prepping with his lawyers.

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Unread post by ForeverYoung » Sun Mar 15, 2020 7:36 pm

Judymac wrote:
Sun Mar 15, 2020 6:56 pm
ForeverYoung wrote:
Sun Mar 15, 2020 6:32 pm
Lbock wrote:
Sun Mar 15, 2020 5:52 pm
. From SM posts I think he is at his French estate. I think FB3 is filming in UK. They never actually filmed in France for FB2. It’s all done in the studio
This would mean if she wanted to be there she has to leave asap to the UK. Even though she wants to testify, she will probably The Sun to put up an all expense stay for her and a friend in a five star hotel until the trial starts on March 23 an throughout the trial unless it settles. However, once again, this is not about money but maybe Johnny would settle for his attorney fees and demand a public apology. I guess we will see what happens. The judge could also postpone the trial, if necessary. I don't know about the UK but a lot of places in the US are shut down for two weeks. Broadway, all sporting events, concerts, the casinos in Philadelphia and now there is talk of the casinos in New Jersey, for preventive measures.
I disagree that Johnny should settle for attorney fees and a public apology. Her apology would be meaningless. She will absolutely never admit that the whole thing was a hoax. Even if she apologized I am convinced that she would go right back to pretending to be a victim of domestic violence. She is a dishonest person. She violated the gag order after their divorce. Unless she is exposed in court she will continue to play the victim.
She already told Carino to tell Johnny she was sorry. Johnny knows she doesn't have that kind of money. She will have to admit that the May incident was a hoax because her parents already told Johnny that she did it because she thought she was getting evicted but she will never admit the other false accusations, imo, even though none of her photos have any date and time stamps, but this is just my opinion. She has no real witnesses other than her sister, Whitney, who to this day has still never made one declaration or statement in support of Amber's claims. Nicole Simpson's sister testified on many occasions about OJ's abuse and filed a civil complaint against him and won. It's time for Whitney to come forward and answer to the declaration of the hotel staff who testified to seeing her on video pretending to punch Amber in the face with Raquel and Amber laughing. It's time for her to step up and defend her sister (like any decent sister would do) and it's time for her to answer to the questions Adam Waldman and team need her to answer.
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Unread post by ForeverYoung » Sun Mar 15, 2020 7:44 pm

Whitney Heard is a major witness since Amber has put in several declarations that she was present in some of the alleged abused events, including the one where she said she was protecting Whitney. Whitney Heard is the one who spent a lot of time with Amber in travels and in personal life. Whitney Heard is the one who can either make or break the case for Amber, imo. Amber is trying to protect her because she knows Whitney witnessed nothing except her abusing Johnny but again, this is just my opinion.
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Unread post by Judymac » Sun Mar 15, 2020 10:43 pm

Lbock wrote:
Sun Mar 15, 2020 7:06 pm
Judymac wrote:
Sun Mar 15, 2020 7:02 pm
Who is SM?
Sorry, Social Media posts like a Instagram. Gina and others

It’s been 5 days or so. He could be back prepping with his lawyers.
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