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Unread post by brunasouzota » Thu Jun 01, 2017 11:08 pm

Christie bitch :-O :smh:? :no2: This make no sense. :perplexed3: Johnny is so generous to all around him, he gave a studio for Bruce Witkin who are a friend of him, so why Johnny wouldn't give a pool for his beloved sister and money for a marriage party for his niece? I believe that Christie is honest, but I don' t think Rayburn is a liar, because all people and she know it's no good lie about power people. Maybe there is something more that she and we don't know, because after all there is a crime against Johnny. :grr:
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Johnny Depp's Inner Circle Emails Made Public Amid Legal Fight

JUNE 19, 2017 3:58pm PT by Ashley Cullins

Joel Mandel wants to subpoena Depp's attorney Jake Bloom and his ex-agent Tracey Jacobs.
Johnny Depp's ex-business managers are fighting to subpoena his longtime reps as part of the ongoing dispute over whether the actor knew the dire state of his finances — and have made public emails they say prove their case.

The actor sued Joel Mandel and The Management Group in January, claiming the firm cost him $8 million in unnecessary tax penalties and fees, loaned without permission $10 million of his money to parties close to him, secured a $12.5 million hard money loan with his residuals and failed to repay itself for a $5 million bridge loan it issued without his knowledge. Mandel countersued, claiming Depp was well aware of the situation — and so were his longtime agent Tracey Jacobs and lawyer Jake Bloom, as well as his sister Christi Dembrowski.

Depp's legal team has filed a motion to quash subpoenas to Jacobs and Bloom for communications regarding the actor's finances, arguing that they're overbroad.

TMG says Mandel, Bloom, Jacobs and Dembrowski served as Depp's inner circle and the four acted in concert to protect his financial and business interests — and the information sought in the subpoenas served to the Bloom Hergott attorney and UTA agent are critical to the dispute.

"[E]ach member of the team had numerous individual communications with Depp and each other, which, taken together, will overwhelmingly establish that Depp was always fully informed regarding his financial problems, and of course, always knew that he was borrowing money to afford his extravagant lifestyle," writes attorney Suann MacIsaac in a Monday court filing.

As to Dembrowski, MacIsaac says it's absurd that Depp would try to limit discovery regarding her knowledge. "In an attached email, Dembrowski even describes herself as Depp's 'one stop informational center,' while instructing a TMG employee that all documents sent to Depp for signature must go through her."

In addition to that email, TMG's filing includes several others they say prove the actor was in the loop through his sister.

In a Jan. 25, 2010 email to Dembroski, Mandel writes, "We are almost $4,000,000 overdrawn" and asks Depp's sister to get him to sign loan documents for a $6 million loan. She responds, "was gonna get them to you this afternoon...no worries!"

A 2014 exchange between Dembrowski and Mandel addresses the loan secured by profit participation from five of Depp's films, which the actor says was done without his knowledge.

"I need your help this week to coordinate having J sign that Letter of Intent regarding this new loan," writes Mandel in the email. "More than that, it is critical to us that J understand what he is signing and, either now or very soon, how this loan will impact him moving forward."

Dembrowski writes back, "I don't understand impact moving forward."

Mandel says he would be happy to give a longer explanation but, in short: "[A]s you know we are pledging our primary Disney profit participations. These monies will be required to pay back the loan and will be unavailable to us for a number of years (likely next 4-5 years). These monies have been a significant source of our income, and have sustained us during the periods between new work. Without access to these monies, even greater reductions in spending will be necessary."

TMG argues that evidence supporting that Dembrowski's role as his authorized agent is critical because often "Depp was either unavailable or unwilling to speak with Mandel regarding his finances."

Only one email exchange directly between Depp and Mandel is included. It addresses the actor's need to "take it easy" on spending as well as his $75 million combined pay from The Tourist, the fourth Pirates of the Caribbean film and Dark Shadows. (The full exchange is posted below.)

TMG says Depp is fighting the discovery requests because the evidence will undercut his claim that the firm hid the state of his finances from him.

"Depp wants to deny this discovery because it will establish that TMG did everything within its power to make Depp, and all of his closest advisors, fully aware of Depp's financial condition," writes MacIsaac. "If TMG was trying to hide Depp's finances to cover-up their alleged misconduct, they would not have repeatedly advised Depp's long-term personal lawyer, Jake Bloom, and his longtime agent, Tracey Jacobs, regarding the situation."


There are pictures of emails too.

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Unread post by Judymac » Mon Jun 19, 2017 7:49 pm

It seems like the Mandels are trying to put the blame on Christi. They tried to trash Johnny and they did not get very far with it and now they are trying to trash his sister. In earlier court documents they stated that Christi was spending Johnny's money. To me that proves the point that Christi/Johnny thought that he had a lot of money and that the Mandels were making wise investments for him. If Johnny thought he had many, many millions of dollars of course he would let his sister have money for a pool or for her daughters wedding. I don't believe that Johnny/Christi really realized just how much of his money was gone. He is Johnny Depp and he has earned many many millions of dollars. Who would expect that so much of it would be gone. In one of the emails Christi seems to be saying that she does not understand what is going on. I do not believe that Chrsti knowingly did anything wrong. She is still working for/with Johnny and actions speak louder than words.

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Unread post by ForeverYoung » Mon Jun 19, 2017 8:03 pm

I don't care what the Mandels say. They took money and paid themselves very well without a signed contract that that is illegal.
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Unread post by Judymac » Mon Jun 19, 2017 8:09 pm

ForeverYoung wrote:I don't care what the Mandels say. They took money and paid themselves very well without a signed contract that that is illegal.
I totally agree Forever Young. Now the Mandels are trying to throw the blame on others.

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Unread post by Lbock » Mon Jun 19, 2017 9:47 pm

Deadline pretty much republished article above but included new 109 page document from TMG to get docs and info from Bloom and Tracey


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Unread post by Lbock » Tue Jun 20, 2017 6:15 pm

Hollywood Reporter quoted above has updated last paragraph to include Johnnys lawyer statement:


Depp's attorney Adam Waldman sent The Hollywood Reporter a statement in response to the filing. "The Mandels present emails from a trio of advisors to whom they paid over $100 million of Mr. Depp's earnings without any contracts (in addition to the tens of millions they paid themselves)," writes Waldman. "How exactly do these advisor emails defend or excuse Joel Mandel from allegations of 'bad fakes' of Mr Depp's signature on bank loans, handing out millions of dollars in sham 'loans,' ordering his subordinates to 'alter financial statements' and falsely notarize documents, failure to file taxes on time for 16 straight years costing Mr Depp over $8 million in penalties, sneaking rights for themselves and others to Mr Depp's movie residuals into hard money loan agreements and the litany of additional, specific allegations in this fraud and malfeasance case?"
June 20, 8:30 a.m. Updated with a statement from Depp's attorney.


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Unread post by Judymac » Tue Jun 20, 2017 9:33 pm

brunasouzota wrote:Christie bitch :-O :smh:? :no2: This make no sense. :perplexed3: Johnny is so generous to all around him, he gave a studio for Bruce Witkin who are a friend of him, so why Johnny wouldn't give a pool for his beloved sister and money for a marriage party for his niece? I believe that Christie is honest, but I don' t think Rayburn is a liar, because all people and she know it's no good lie about power people. Maybe there is something more that she and we don't know, because after all there is a crime against Johnny. :grr:
Maybe TMG was afraid of Christi because they were afraid that she would find out that the Mandels were stealing Johnny's money. They knew as soon as Christi figured out what was going on that they would be in big trouble. I think they were telling her some things about Johnny's finances but they were not telling her enough so she actually understood what was going on.

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Judymac wrote:
brunasouzota wrote:Christie bitch :-O :smh:? :no2: This make no sense. :perplexed3: Johnny is so generous to all around him, he gave a studio for Bruce Witkin who are a friend of him, so why Johnny wouldn't give a pool for his beloved sister and money for a marriage party for his niece? I believe that Christie is honest, but I don' t think Rayburn is a liar, because all people and she know it's no good lie about power people. Maybe there is something more that she and we don't know, because after all there is a crime against Johnny. :grr:
Maybe TMG was afraid of Christi because they were afraid that she would find out that the Mandels were stealing Johnny's money. They knew as soon as Christi figured out what was going on that they would be in big trouble. I think they were telling her some things about Johnny's finances but they were not telling her enough so she actually understood what was going on.
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Unread post by Peachy » Wed Jun 21, 2017 6:37 am

Great article over at the Inquistr. Finally someone making sense of this!
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Unread post by Gilbert's Girl » Wed Jun 21, 2017 7:47 am

I'm sure in past years we discussed whether Johnny owned his own plane and I thought it was decided he did not, but chartered one as and when needed.
Also for years Johnny has told interviewers that he has music in his ears while either preparing for a scene or during it, and co stars have also said the same. Thats the origin of the earpeice mystery.

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Unread post by sleepy » Wed Jun 21, 2017 1:25 pm

He is getting destroyed, online. All this "information" is being taken as fact. It is all over the gossip, entertainment, movie, and just general information sites. I hope the end justifies the means. It is taking a toll on how people perceive him. And we hear little or nothing from him. The fact that he is not involved in any kind of social media, makes him a distant figure. Only his older, long time fans know very much about him. All others, knowing little about him, are much more likely to believe what they are reading.
Funny ol' world, innit?

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sleepy wrote:He is getting destroyed, online. All this "information" is being taken as fact. It is all over the gossip, entertainment, movie, and just general information sites. I hope the end justifies the means. It is taking a toll on how people perceive him. And we hear little or nothing from him. The fact that he is not involved in any kind of social media, makes him a distant figure. Only his older, long time fans know very much about him. All others, knowing little about him, are much more likely to believe what they are reading.
His lawyers issued a response. Johnny probably needs to stay out of this and concentrate on work. He's hired good people hopefully, and time will tell.

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Unread post by Lbock » Wed Jun 21, 2017 2:20 pm

sleepy wrote:He is getting destroyed, online. All this "information" is being taken as fact. It is all over the gossip, entertainment, movie, and just general information sites. I hope the end justifies the means. It is taking a toll on how people perceive him. And we hear little or nothing from him. The fact that he is not involved in any kind of social media, makes him a distant figure. Only his older, long time fans know very much about him. All others, knowing little about him, are much more likely to believe what they are reading.
My twitter feed just exploded again with lots of online articles reporting this as a new revelation and now proof he was lying all alone. It's in the title so everyone is clicking on it. My heart hurts :heart4:

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Unread post by sleepy » Wed Jun 21, 2017 4:40 pm

I'm betting his lawyer's response won't get near as much publicity. The response in itself, was pretty laid back and didn't really address many of the accusations and slurs thrown out there. I'm assuming nothing, legally, can be done about all the things they are saying, including private emails being published? I mean, they are saying some really harsh things...making him out to be a real low life. This is really defamation of character.
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