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Unread post by RumLover » Tue Oct 22, 2019 5:11 pm

Lbock wrote:
Mon Oct 21, 2019 6:52 pm
Looks like Johnnys attorneys may have made a mistake. Allowing him to include her original 2016 statement that he abused her when drunk or high, opened the door for her to access his medical records. Also his statement that he never harmed a women, opened the door for HIM to prove it, so she has access to his romantic partners and arrest records for violence, etc

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It’s worth noting that Depp’s lawsuit is predicated on a statement Heard provided to the LAPD in 2016, where she claimed Depp’s abusive behavior was tied to his history of substance abuse.
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I don't know what 2016 statement, they could be referring to.
Heard did not make a statement about Depp to police.
The police depositions were clear that she said nothing about who or what on the evening they were called.
LAPD said she had not filed a police report after Heard's lawyers said she would.
If she had made a statement to police, then surely the police would have interviewed Depp. I have seen nothing to say that ever happened.

Therefore I can't say this is a mistake by Depp's attorneys to not consider a statement that was never made. If Depp's team is not aware of details of what did not happen, that is unfortunate.

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Unread post by Ruby Begonia » Tue Oct 22, 2019 5:23 pm

But wait! There's more.... :smh:

Very long article, first paragraphs only are below:

EXCLUSIVE: Johnny Depp's former lawyers attempt to collect $350k in unpaid legal fees by trying to file a lien against actor's $19M properties in California by Cheyenne Roundtree - DailyMail
....The 56-year-old was hit with a lawsuit from Buckley LLP in May, alleging he had an outstanding bill of nearly $350,000 from retaining the powerhouse firm to represent him against his former lawyer Jake Bloom's entertainment law firm.

After successfully defending his case in August 2018, Buckley continued to work for Depp up until this January. The firm billed Depp for $535,697.28 but the actor only paid $187,717.39, leaving a remaining balance of $347,979.89.

Depp, who was once estimated to be worth $650 million, claimed Buckley lawyers were charging 'excessive and unreasonable' amounts, and asked for the case to be dropped.

Now, Buckley LLP has filed documents seeking for a lien to be taken out against Depp's California properties, which are worth a collective $19 million, in attempt to collect on the outstanding bill....

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Unread post by Lbock » Tue Oct 22, 2019 5:30 pm

Isn’t the “statement” taken from her TRO filing?

I saw the Buckley article. I couldn’t bear to post it.

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Unread post by RumLover » Tue Oct 22, 2019 5:37 pm

Lbock wrote:
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Isn’t the “statement” taken from her TRO filing?

I saw the Buckley article. I couldn’t bear to post it.
Even if Heard made that statement in her TRO filing (I would have to reread), it was not, as Jezebel claimed, a statement to LAPD.

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Unread post by justintime » Tue Oct 22, 2019 5:51 pm

You’re so very welcome, meeps!

Anything we read that makes us feel a little better about this whole mess, even short term, is probably worth trying to share here. Whether I agree with a post or not, I will forever be grateful for this place, this little speck of respectful sanity, in “these uncertain times.”

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Nobody wants to work with poison. And this request for past partners over 10 years seems excessive and unwarranted. Disappointed that the judge authorized this no matter what Johnny's attorney said.
I agree with you, Ruby Begonia, on all three counts, and am beyond disappointed. I especially found the range of the Judge’s ruling overreaching in every direction.

Given the seemingly careless oversights by Johnny’s attorney team as a whole, and, more specifically, by Mr. Gilmore’s inability to shift gears when presented with the opportunity during oral argument, there was obviously going to be some deserved finger-wagging and unpleasant decision-making to follow. But to up the learning curve at Johnny’s expense, potentially sparing not an ounce of his long-coveted, hard-earned privacy and dignity, was inexplicable, unnecessary, and (dare I say it) unfair.

Unlike the Defendant, Johnny has never, ever held himself up as better than anyone else nor as more deserving. For nigh onto four years now, though, he literally has been dehumanized by the cowardly, biased and greedy press, pilloried by an illiterate, mob-mentality social media, and emotionally and physically tormented by his morally bankrupt ex-spouse, all virtually nonstop. To receive a merciless, across-the-board blow - rather than a more thoughtful, “surgical”directive - in the one place he has been trusting in his heart as the place where truth and justice might finally find some breathing room and perhaps ultimately prevail - in a court of law - was, imho, unwarranted. Indeed, it sent an unmitigated “Go get him” message to his gleeful opponents, already emboldened by their unchallenged comments to the press.
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Unread post by Lbock » Tue Oct 22, 2019 5:59 pm

Beautifully and perfectly said. I would also say it was a “take no prisoners approach” by also invading the privacy of his partners at whatever cost to them. At the very least making them media and paparazzi fodder. Not everyone welcomes the spotlight

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Unread post by Ruby Begonia » Tue Oct 22, 2019 6:28 pm

Johnny has many high-profile and influential friends and colleagues who are probably supporting him behind the scenes and, like the Vamps and Burton, in public. I hope this current "piling on" will prompt more people to offer their support to him. :grouphug:

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Unread post by ForeverYoung » Tue Oct 22, 2019 7:00 pm

Johnny and his lawyers probably knew this was going to get messy and they know she doesn't have the kind of money she is being sued for. The real issue is the truth and evidence of how she played the media. He has eye witnesses, videos and testimonies, including her own testimony that reveal she has not been truthful and her lies are slowly being exposed. Seems she has no where to go except a sleezey smear campaign because nothing they will get from these productions will prove he was abusive to her. I really hope the powers that be in Hollywood see this crap and we never have to see her face again. Her and Kaplan have sunk to a new low...even for them.
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Unread post by meeps » Wed Oct 23, 2019 12:49 am

Ruby Begonia wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2019 6:28 pm
Johnny has many high-profile and influential friends and colleagues who are probably supporting him behind the scenes and, like the Vamps and Burton, in public. I hope this current "piling on" will prompt more people to offer their support to him. :grouphug:
Yes, it could backfire for Amber's team in the sense, that his ex-lovers will laugh in their faces saying "Sweet Johnny abusive? What have you been smoking?" or word to that effect - maybe a bit more polite than that :)
Unfortunately we will properly not hear anything about it in the media if they do :-/ It's of course not something her side would want to leak, and unfortunately the media in general wouldn't want to mention it ... So we'll only know they failed, when we hear no more about it.

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Unread post by reindeermoon » Wed Oct 23, 2019 3:02 am

We all knew that AH's team will try everything to get Johnny drop the accusation. And a cornered rat will bite.
Johnnys exe's came forward to defend him in 2016. In all the abuser cases in the last years when someone has been accused others came forward as well with other accusations. But this is not so in Johnnys case. His lawyers might expect everything and Waldman gave a good response. If AH would not have been allowed to go searching for other abused victims, she might still try to play the poor victim who had no chance and has been unfairly treated.
It is hard for us to see how the tabloids help her in that smear campaign. But I hope when the trial is over and Johnny has won his case the wind will change.

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Unread post by ForeverYoung » Wed Oct 23, 2019 8:07 am

Here is the Judge's order. Johnny's team has to produce by November 15. I think asking for certain texts beyond ten years is over burdensome and ridiculous. It just makes them look desperate because they have no defense. I hope Kaplan realizes that if Johnny had given into her extortion there would be no case right now.

https://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/circuit/s ... 8-2019.pdf
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Unread post by Lbock » Wed Oct 23, 2019 10:50 am

10 years of text messages. Can you think of how many phones he has had since then. Even emails, if he doesn't download them aren't keep on Gmail servers, for example, forever.

Found this in several places re text messages


Some phone companies also keep records of sent text messages. They sit on the company’s server for anywhere from three days to three months, depending on the company’s policy. Verizon holds texts for up to five days and Virgin Mobile keeps them for 90 days. AT&T, T-Mobile and Sprint do not keep the contents of text messages. Once that time period has expired, the company deletes the content of the messages but holds on to the time and date of the text and who it was sent to.

Your phone has limited space but it can still store approximately 1,000 text messages. It completely deletes old text messages after some time

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Unread post by Newt » Wed Oct 23, 2019 11:29 am

But how can he comply? 90% of those must be gone into the ether. :lol:

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Unread post by ForeverYoung » Wed Oct 23, 2019 8:20 pm

Maybe someone on Amber's team actually has a conscience. One of the lawyers is leaving the firm. :bluewave:
https://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/circuit/s ... a-matz.pdf
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Unread post by justintime » Wed Oct 23, 2019 8:55 pm

Thanks a bunch for that info, ForeverYoung.

Interesting. Hope it actually was a matter of a conflicted conscience.

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