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Unread post by Theresa » Thu Oct 10, 2019 5:22 pm

stroch wrote:
Thu Oct 10, 2019 5:05 pm
I think it should be private...actually, I thought it was.

We know about the excessive traffic at times, but we don't know who generates all of it. I guess the mods can see the IP addresses and can do a search if something seems suspicious.

Second edit: right now,I am the only registered member on line,but there are 513 guests.
Those 513 'guests' are mostly Chinese bots that are attempting to search our board. Most of the forums they're attempting to search are closed to guests so all they get is a page that tells them they're not allowed in.

This board--all of the News board, in fact--has always been open to everyone and will remain so. As far as I can tell, everything that has been posted in this thread is publicly available to anyone willing to put in the time and money to find it. You guys aren't posting anything that falls outside of those guidelines.

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Unread post by ForeverYoung » Thu Oct 10, 2019 8:06 pm

I think Johnny's PR team reads here probably just as much as Amber's does because they want to know the general consensus of what the fans think. Johnny said once the fans can see things before him and his PR even see them sometimes. Somehow I think her lawyer wants people to believe that Johnny sends out a Depp Army or something but the truth is a lot of his fans never liked her from the beginning when she was wearing his clothes to draw attention that they were a couple. Being a fan of Johnny's is like being on a roller coaster sometimes but boy it's worth the ride. We can see and feel when he is up and we can see and feel when he his down just by looking at his clothes, accessories and of course those deep dark eyes. We've been waiting a long time for that sparkle to come back and now that's it's back I think a lot of us feel relief because we know he is in a better place now. We cry for him, we rejoice for him and we fight for him. A lot of people can't understand that.
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Unread post by Lbock » Thu Oct 10, 2019 8:50 pm

So well said 👏🏼👏🏼❤️

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Unread post by stroch » Thu Oct 10, 2019 9:07 pm

Ditto^^ :cheers:
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Unread post by Moonbeam » Fri Oct 11, 2019 12:26 am

ForeverYoung wrote:
Thu Oct 10, 2019 8:06 pm
I think Johnny's PR team reads here probably just as much as Amber's does because they want to know the general consensus of what the fans think. Johnny said once the fans can see things before him and his PR even see them sometimes. Somehow I think her lawyer wants people to believe that Johnny sends out a Depp Army or something but the truth is a lot of his fans never liked her from the beginning when she was wearing his clothes to draw attention that they were a couple. Being a fan of Johnny's is like being on a roller coaster sometimes but boy it's worth the ride. We can see and feel when he is up and we can see and feel when he his down just by looking at his clothes, accessories and of course those deep dark eyes. We've been waiting a long time for that sparkle to come back and now that's it's back I think a lot of us feel relief because we know he is in a better place now. We cry for him, we rejoice for him and we fight for him. A lot of people can't understand that.
Hey Zoners!! :loveshower: :worldhug:
ForeverYoung, thank you for that statement that describes how deeply Johnny's fans are affected by his pain and his happiness. I have JDOCD for sure and other people really don't get how I can say things such as, his eyes look sad, or be aware that when he plays he is having the time of his life! We have seen almost every Johnny picture and followed him and his career. Buy the Ticket, Take the Ride!! :agree2: :yahoo: :redcar:

I'd like to thank those of you who have purchased documents, etc for this thread. Also, thank you for all the links provided. Brian McPherson is also most helpful. I am thrilled that the judge in the Rocky case ruled in Johnny's favor!!! Looking forward to seeing what Mr Waldman and Associate do next in the case against AH. :applause:

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Unread post by hollyberry » Fri Oct 11, 2019 3:02 am

Just about sums it up!
What annoys me is when Johnny's fans started defending him there were a lot of accusations that we were 'silly deluded fangirls' online.
I'm fifty four, I have followed his career for the better part of thirty years. I haven't seen everything he's done as not everything is my cup of tea, but I've seen enough and know enough of his history that the moment those allegations dropped my first thought was: no way.
Johnny has had his problems. But a man doesn't become a spousal abuser overnight. He doesn't enjoy relationships with a number of women, including one of fourteen years, many during his bad times, and not lay a finger on any of them then suddenly become abusive to just one. I also saw recent pictures of a real abused wife: they showed up Heard's fake pics for what they were.
We are NOT deluded kids with stars in our eyes. We judged Johnny on the facts as we know them. And still do. His fans still love and respect him, but I want this trial to go ahead as soon as possible so his ex will finally be revealed as the sociopathic snake she is. Then hopefully this sordid affair can be paid to rest and Johnny can get on with his life - and perhaps find love again.

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Unread post by meeps » Fri Oct 11, 2019 4:51 am

Amen!

I also get rather irritated, when some know-it-all tells us fans, that we (I have been a fan since 1994, myself) don't really know Johnny. Only know, what his PR machine pumps out.
To be frank I don't even know, if he has a PR firm working for him. But I base my image of Johnny on; what he has said and done himself, what his friends and coworkers have said about him, and what fans, who have met him, have told us about him.
Now what he says and does himself could be an act. But if it is, then he has played the same a bit hotheaded sweetie constantly for more than thirty years. And he is a great actor, but I don't think a human being can handle that long a con, so I think, he is, what he seems to be.
Some of his friends and coworkers could of course praise his sweet nature to further their own career - either by associating themselves with a more famous person or keep in Johnny's good graces, so he would help them along in the movie or music industry. But some of those, who have said very nice things about him and seems to love him, are more famous than he is and/or don't need his help.
As for the fans ... Now I haven't met Johnny myself and probably never will (the one time he spend the night about one and a half to two miles from my flat (2 to 3 kilometers) I didn't find out until several days later, when I recognised the scenery behind Jerry and him on pictures here at the zone :biggrin: ) but I trust my fellow fans, who all says, that he's sweet, gentle and patient with them. Why should they all lie?
So all in all I think, that Ms Heard and Mr Brooks et al is lying all they can for their own benefit, and I sincerely and probably not that nicely hope, that it won't benefit them at all!
... can somebody please give me a hand down from the soapbox :)

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Unread post by hollyberry » Fri Oct 11, 2019 7:42 am

I'll get up there with you!
I've mentioned this before, but my cousin stayed at a hotel which had in it's foyer dozens of signed pics of celebrities who've stayed there, Johnny among them.
The owner - I'd like to point out a middle aged straight married man - said not only did he find Johnny a genuinely nice person, but he also refused any money for the pic.
Straight from the mouth of someone who has met him.

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Unread post by gipsyblues » Fri Oct 11, 2019 9:10 am

I agree with all of you and would like to thank everyone for the deep views. You are all so caring and loving people. But just this heartiness unites all the Deppheads. :worldhug:

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Unread post by justintime » Fri Oct 11, 2019 12:07 pm

Someone may have explained this already, but I can’t seem to find it. Apparently there is a hearing scheduled for November 8, 2019, for a motion filed by AH for “Leave to file amended response pleadings.”

Does anyone know what “response pleadings” are and what, specifically, she is requesting permission to change/readdress? It’s filed in Virginia, in front of Hon. Bruce D. White, so I’m assuming it has to do with the defamation lawsuit.

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Unread post by Lbock » Fri Oct 11, 2019 12:35 pm

justintime wrote:
Fri Oct 11, 2019 12:07 pm
Someone may have explained this already, but I can’t seem to find it. Apparently there is a hearing scheduled for November 8, 2019, for a motion filed by AH for “Leave to file amended response pleadings.”

Does anyone know what “response pleadings” are and what, specifically, she is requesting permission to change/readdress? It’s filed in Virginia, in front of Hon. Bruce D. White, so I’m assuming it has to do with the defamation lawsuit.

I'll try to explain: Main Link

04/30/2019 Order for a Briefing Schedule on the Motion to Dismiss
AH files to dismiss. Asks for full dismissal, but if judge wont do that at least change venue. They also mention they would seek a Plea in Bar later.

05/31/2019 Defendant's Reply in Support of Motion to Dismiss/Transfer View
05/31/2019 Defendant's Reply in Support of Motion to Dismiss/Transfer Praecipe
Here they follow through on their Motion to Dismiss for Improper Venue. Seem to drop their overall dismissal and never mentions the Plea In Bar again. (I think it is possible the Judge made a mistake here by not addressing the Plea in Bar request. Therefore, it remained open thus possibly providing a loop hole for AH to file so late on the amended response)

New Lawyers come in (Kaplan)
09/05/2019 Defendant's Motion for Leave to File Amended Responsive Pleading (This will be heard Nov 8)
09/05/2019 Memorandum of Law in Support of Defendant's Demurrer and Plea in Bar
09/23/2019 Defendant's Motion for Leave to File Amended Responsive Pleading Praecipe
10/07/2019 Defendant's Motion for Leave to File Amended Pleadings Praecipe
Here they are saying they want to amend the above earlier filings, they want to now file a full Dismissal on the grounds the OpEd was an opinion piece, not about JD, and should be dismissed under the Virginia Anti-Slapp law. It was about what happens to a women after they claim abuse (not that they were actually abused-side eye) They also mention pursuing the Plea in Bar. So this is a request to change their minds.

10/07/2019 Defendant's Demurrer and Plea in Bar Praecipe
If the judge agrees to let them file the amended response, then that Dismissal/Plea in Bar will be heard Nov 22

We have not seen any opposition filings from JD team and they seem to have agreed to the dates for the hearings.

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Unread post by justintime » Fri Oct 11, 2019 9:23 pm

Thank you, Lbock, for the explanation and for the link to the whole gamut of motions, letters, hearings, etc to date. Most of it is beyond me at this point, but I did come away with a couple thoughts/observations:

1. It seems one of the first tussles was to determine whether or not there would be a Judge Preassignment - i.e. whether one Judge would preside for the entirety of the case or if there would be different judges throughout. It took the Defendant’s team two pages to make their case that the suit was very complex(!) and both parties would benefit from the continuity of one Judge. On the other hand, it took the Plaintiff’s team fifty-six pages to make their case that the suit was not complicated (!) and they would be fine without a Judge Preassignment.

RESULT: Judge Preassignment is made by the Chief Judge. Since the Hon. Bruce D. White is the Chief Judge, he apparently assigned himself to the role. “Loss” for the Plaintiff, or a golden opportunity to give the Judge an uncontested heads up look at their side?

2. It makes me uncomfortable to think the Judge may have made a “mistake”/oversight by letting the Plea in Bar slide by unaddressed at the, 05/31/2019, hearing that was intended to rule on Defendant’s Motion to Dismiss/Transfer Venue and to rule on Defendant’s Motion to Dismiss/Transfer Praecipe. As you so astutely noted, Lbock, by not addressing the issue, it was left open for “possibly providing a loop hole for AH to file late on the amended response.” Certainly this could not have gone unnoticed by JD’s team. Could it? Why? Well, who was waiting in the wings to join AH’s team in September? The Kaplan entourage, of course.

RESULT: Plea in Bar forgotten and homeless in May; Plea in Bar a potential bring-down-the-house, show-stopper in November. My money is on Mr. Waldman . . .
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Unread post by Lbock » Fri Oct 11, 2019 10:24 pm

I’m not sure if this has been posted. This is the transcript for the motion for Protective order. Interesting to see how each side handled themselves. I personally see a difference in attitude and professionalism.

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Unread post by meeps » Sat Oct 12, 2019 3:10 am

So Amber Heard doesn't like that we're very much on Johnny's side ... GOOD!
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Unread post by hollyberry » Sat Oct 12, 2019 3:29 am

meeps wrote:
Sat Oct 12, 2019 3:10 am
So Amber Heard doesn't like that we're very much on Johnny's side ... GOOD!
He :)
Thank you my friend, this has made my day! :biggrin: