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Unread post by ForeverYoung » Tue Aug 27, 2019 12:22 am

One last thing...let's not forget there are people she is trying to protect with this request for the protective order, like her sister who is in the videos and whom she said she was "protecting" from being hit but never gave any statements and was never listed as a witness in the dv charge. There is also her friend Amanda de Cadenet who was in one of the surveilance videos and supports Amber through her work doing stupid interviews. She was never listed as a witness either.
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Unread post by Lbock » Tue Aug 27, 2019 6:29 am

Lots of subpoenas issued by Depp team and her side. Her side wants daily production reports from last Pirates and a few days of City of Lies corresponding to Rocky accusations

I’m guessing they are looking for reasons for Disney to fire him other than her claims of DV or her defamation resulting in bad PR


08/22/2019 Foreign Subpoena for Raquel Pennington View
08/22/2019 Foreign Subpoena for Melanie Inglessis View
08/22/2019 Foreign Subpoena for Joshua Drew View
08/22/2019 Foreign Subpoena for Jodi Gottlieb View
08/22/2019 Foreign Subpoena for Elizabeth Marz

Example of production report.

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Unread post by Judymac » Tue Aug 27, 2019 8:28 am

ForeverYoung wrote:One last thing...let's not forget there are people she is trying to protect with this request for the protective order, like her sister who is in the videos and whom she said she was "protecting" from being hit but never gave any statements and was never listed as a witness in the dv charge. There is also her friend Amanda de Cadenet who was in one of the surveilance videos and supports Amber through her work doing stupid interviews. She was never listed as a witness either.
I am not sure if you are saying that Amber can protect people from testifying. A protective order does not mean that she can protect anybody from testifying. Johnny's side can subpoena on any of Amber's friends/relatives if they think it will help their side. If a person is subpoenaed they must testify. if they refuse to testify they can be held in contempt of court. A person who is in contempt of court can get jailed, fined or both.
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Unread post by Judymac » Tue Aug 27, 2019 8:40 am

I think the request for production reports is desperation. It won't matter if she gets the information. A good attorney like Mr Waldman will prove that it is irrelevant. Even if he was late to work or perhaps hungover, it does not prove that he committed domestic violence. It's interesting that they listed Raquel Pennington's address as the Eastern Columbia Building. They probably don't have a current address so they are sending it to the last known address. I am also surprised that they did not redact the addresses of the other people.

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Unread post by meeps » Tue Aug 27, 2019 9:02 am

Judymac wrote: I think the request for production reports is desperation. It won't matter if she gets the information. A good attorney like Mr Waldman will prove that it is irrelevant. Even if he was late to work or perhaps hungover, it does not prove that he committed domestic violence. It's interesting that they listed Raquel Pennington's address as the Eastern Columbia Building. They probably don't have a current address so they are sending it to the last known address. I am also surprised that they did not redact the addresses of the other people.
No, it wouldn't prove, that big bad Johnny abused poor little innocent Amber - that was sarcasm aimed at Ms Heard, if anybody was in doubt :biggrin: But it could prove, that Disney had other reasons for firing Johnny as Jack. And one of his claims is, I believe, that Ms. H.'s ongoing campaign against him made him lose one of his favourite roles ...
One problem for her is, that Jerry Bruckheimer has said quite a long time ago, that Johnny was at work, as he should be, one time they discussed those rumours of Johnny being late or not showing up at all. Bruckheimer said, it was not true.
So how will she explain that away?

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Unread post by Judymac » Tue Aug 27, 2019 9:58 am

meeps wrote:
Judymac wrote: I think the request for production reports is desperation. It won't matter if she gets the information. A good attorney like Mr Waldman will prove that it is irrelevant. Even if he was late to work or perhaps hungover, it does not prove that he committed domestic violence. It's interesting that they listed Raquel Pennington's address as the Eastern Columbia Building. They probably don't have a current address so they are sending it to the last known address. I am also surprised that they did not redact the addresses of the other people.
No, it wouldn't prove, that big bad Johnny abused poor little innocent Amber - that was sarcasm aimed at Ms Heard, if anybody was in doubt :biggrin: But it could prove, that Disney had other reasons for firing Johnny as Jack. And one of his claims is, I believe, that Ms. H.'s ongoing campaign against him made him lose one of his favourite roles ...
One problem for her is, that Jerry Bruckheimer has said quite a long time ago, that Johnny was at work, as he should be, one time they discussed those rumours of Johnny being late or not showing up at all. Bruckheimer said, it was not true.
So how will she explain that away?
I honestly don't think that Johnny was fired in the way people think of a firing. The reason why I do not think that he was fired for being an abuser is that Johnny is still doing hospital visits as Captain Jack Sparrow. I know that Johnny invented the character of Captain Jack but Disney has a trademark on the character. That means that the character is owned by Disney. When the character became popular, Johnny probably had it written into one of his contracts that he could continue to use the character for good purposes. He has continued to use it for good purposes. Disney is very image conscious. If they really thought he was an abuser they would probably take him to court to stop him from using the image of Captain Jack Sparrow. I think the news media jumped on this as a nasty firing and that assumption has persisted. The more something is hyped, the more people are interested. I absolutely do not believe that Amber Heard had the power to get him fired from Disney.

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Unread post by meeps » Tue Aug 27, 2019 1:31 pm

Thanks a billion for that cheering point of view :smiliewithhearts:

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Unread post by hollyberry » Tue Aug 27, 2019 2:24 pm

I vividly remember Johnny turning up at a school in the UK, while filming Pirates IV. They were doing a historical study of pirates and one of the little girls wrote to Captain Jack asking for his advice. Someone sent it to the studio just for a joke and every one was stunned when Johnny turned up along with other cast members in full get up!
The little girl was thrilled to bits, as were her classmates!

This is why Johnny has so many fans - few megastars are as generous with their time.

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Unread post by ForeverYoung » Tue Aug 27, 2019 5:56 pm

Judymac wrote:
ForeverYoung wrote:One last thing...let's not forget there are people she is trying to protect with this request for the protective order, like her sister who is in the videos and whom she said she was "protecting" from being hit but never gave any statements and was never listed as a witness in the dv charge. There is also her friend Amanda de Cadenet who was in one of the surveilance videos and supports Amber through her work doing stupid interviews. She was never listed as a witness either.
I am not sure if you are saying that Amber can protect people from testifying. A protective order does not mean that she can protect anybody from testifying. Johnny's side can subpoena on any of Amber's friends/relatives if they think it will help their side. If a person is subpoenaed they must testify. if they refuse to testify they can be held in contempt of court. A person who is in contempt of court can get jailed, fined or both.
Sorry, what I meant was that it seems to me she is trying to protect certain names that come up in discovery from being revealed to the public. Her attorneys can always do motions to quash the subpoenas but of course it doesn't mean they would win.
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Unread post by RumLover » Tue Aug 27, 2019 6:18 pm

Even if Heard's team could convince a jury that Depp was fired from Pirates for other reasons, it would not mean that the jury would find Heard had not defamed Depp. It would also not prevent any perjury charges against Heard and her witnesses.
It could reduce the amount of damages. If a jury thought damages should be a lesser amount, say $5m, that should still be a win for Depp and a loss for Heard.

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Unread post by ForeverYoung » Tue Aug 27, 2019 6:38 pm

Frankly, I don't think Johnny cares about the money. What he cares about is exposing the truth and clearing his name.
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Unread post by justintime » Tue Aug 27, 2019 8:28 pm

ForeverYoung wrote:Frankly, I don't think Johnny cares about the money. What he cares about is exposing the truth and clearing his name.
I agree, ForeverYoung, on both counts: JD’s caring about the money is trumped far and away by his caring about CLEARING HIS NAME and knowing people around the globe have not only been exposed to the truth, BUT ARE GIVEN REASON TO BELIEVE it. “GLOBAL” truth exposure and “GLOBAL” reputation restoration are not a conceit; Johnny has been horrifically defamed globally and deserves to be exonerated globally to whatever extent possible.

That said, I believe with all my heart that it is, unfortunate but true, the substantial monetary award by a JURY IN A PUBLIC TRIAL that will ultimately not only carry the day for Johnny but be the redeeming trumpet call to the masses on every rung of the ladder - while simultaneously providing an easily referenced visual for the lazy media - heralding Johnny’s innocence into the foreseeable future. I’ve said it before and, cynic that I am, believe it still: payable or not, appealed or not, nothing initially catches the public’s eye or screams innocence more loudly or permanently in our gnat-like memories than long numbers with no decimal point and lots of zeroes. And don’t tell me AH doesn’t have the money - thus far, she’s proven financially resourceful beyond anyone’s wildest imagination. Get the funds or go to jail. My bet is, she’ll find it a good time to get creative.
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Unread post by ForeverYoung » Tue Aug 27, 2019 9:36 pm

Yes, I concur Amber has some money but she has not worked since Aquaman which is why she keeps hooking up with men with money to pay for her legal bills, imo. She bought a house that she needs to take care of plus that $50K a month lifestyle she had with Johnny and his credit card.
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Unread post by Quin55 » Wed Aug 28, 2019 12:16 am

Wait a minute. Her side wants production schedule notes from the last "Pirates" that he filmed? Isn't the larger point that after all her shenanigans in the media that hurt his reputation, Disney announced the next Pirates - the next one with no production notes yet - will not include Johnny? After her lies made him a media target, the rats at Disney used the opportunity as an excuse to disengage with the actor who brought them billions of dollars. A big part of that media blitz was the Washington Post article. (Sadly, the news giant of days past used terrible judgement by printing that one-sided, one-source story.) Johnny should have had a say about when he would no longer make Pirate movies. That clout was taken from him - after he earned it. He lost a potential $20M in earnings. That's a result of defamation. Weird path for her lawyers. What will it prove? He was late to the set? Needed hand surgery after she speared him with broken glass? Was recovering from a Mersa infection? Hey lawyers, if you are relying on her for information - hello, you have a pathological liar for a client! Sigh! And when he wins and she has to find the $50M, she will no doubt hit up her sickeningly rich friend who owns Tezla. (One of her sleazy elevator men.) I don't imagine that I.O. has that much cash stashed away. Hurry up, February!

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Unread post by ForeverYoung » Wed Aug 28, 2019 1:15 pm

Judymac wrote:I think the request for production reports is desperation. It won't matter if she gets the information. A good attorney like Mr Waldman will prove that it is irrelevant. Even if he was late to work or perhaps hungover, it does not prove that he committed domestic violence. It's interesting that they listed Raquel Pennington's address as the Eastern Columbia Building. They probably don't have a current address so they are sending it to the last known address. I am also surprised that they did not redact the addresses of the other people.
I don't think the addresses are redacted because that is the way the documents were filed with the court and these are official court documents from the court's site. (If another site copies from the court documents, then I believe they would have to redact.) This is what I meant by why I think Amber is seeking a protective order. Now... if any of her friends or family, or anyone else that gets subpoenaed have any enemies, those enemies would know where the people live, or their last known address. Not sure why they used the penthouse apartment number because she was living with Amber after she moved out.
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