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Unread post by fireflydances » Wed May 18, 2022 3:39 pm

I have been attempting to watch Rocky's and Josh's depositions but I keep missing the specifics about Johnny causing the damage on the night of May 21st. In other words, what I am hearing from the folks who review the testimony was that Josh saw Johnny spilling the wine, breaking the glasses? But I, myself, didn't hear Josh say this. He only talked about 'after the incident' and the damage he showed the police. Did I somehow miss part of Josh's testimony? I guess I figured that because Johnny's security was with him that they would not have allowed him to go around breaking things? Anyone see or hear what I am looking for? Was it only Rocky that spoke about Johnny throwing things around? Thanks! (I didn't listen much to Rocky. Liked Josh better)
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Unread post by Judymac » Wed May 18, 2022 5:49 pm

Ammit wrote:
Wed May 18, 2022 3:26 pm
Hello, I'm from Germany and this is the first time I've seen a court case from the hae USA. I have a question that is not specific to this case, but what are the next big steps after AH's witnesses have been examined until there is a judgement?
After AH's (defendant) case concludes, the plaintiff (Johnny) will have a chance for a brief rebuttal. Then, both sides will give their closing arguments. During the closing arguments each side summarizes their case. The jurors will be given instructions and will go to a room to deliberate. The jurors are allowed to take notes during the trial and they also have all of the exhibits to examine and discuss.

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Someareborn wrote:
Wed May 18, 2022 3:18 pm
Thank you Judymac for replying.
I was not clear on my previous post I think....I meant to say that I do not understand AHs lawyers strategy. They let it all happen.

But, what happened to Whitneys cross? They could have debunked her testimony about the stair case incident a million times? Isn't it the most important incident because AH claims to have an actual eye witness?
Why did they chose not to debunk it? I am confused, what do you think?
I only watched a little of the testimony today. I watched some of Rocky's testimony and a little of Whitney's testimony. I am going to watch the testimony tonight.

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Unread post by ForeverYoung » Wed May 18, 2022 8:05 pm

The testimony from RP last night and today was pretty much boring and it was obvious she didn't want to be there. Josh's wasn't much better and from what heard was that one juror was rolling his neck (maybe a stiff neck or something) and another one appeared to nod off for a minute or two. Even the judge looked bored at least we could change the channel but they all were stuck there.

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Someareborn wrote:
Wed May 18, 2022 3:18 pm
Thank you Judymac for replying.
I was not clear on my previous post I think....I meant to say that I do not understand AHs lawyers strategy. They let it all happen.

But, what happened to Whitneys cross? They could have debunked her testimony about the stair case incident a million times? Isn't it the most important incident because AH claims to have an actual eye witness?
Why did they chose not to debunk it? I am confused, what do you think?
My hope is that the door was opened for Jennifer Howell.

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Unread post by fireflydances » Wed May 18, 2022 9:25 pm

So I made a lame attempt to describe my own failed and confused experience of watching Josh Drew's deposition. After Josh and looking for some real recap and some hope, I watched too many different online experts and found nothing but a bunch of shell shocked folks. Which really seems off to me -- one day can't be that horrific.

In any case, I finally found one lone video that recapped the day and offered some light. If you found the day depressing, maybe this will help.

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Unread post by ForeverYoung » Wed May 18, 2022 10:18 pm

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Unread post by ForeverYoung » Thu May 19, 2022 12:01 am

Too bad they didn't or couldn't bring this up today with the sister.

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Unread post by ForeverYoung » Thu May 19, 2022 12:52 am

This is right before the break when the ex walked out of the courtroom w/o standing up for the jury or being dismissed by the judge.

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Unread post by Jackslady » Thu May 19, 2022 2:41 am

Thanks Foreveryoung. I will caveat this post by saying I haven’t watched all the testimonies from yesterday as yet, I dipped in and out but couldn’t deal with it hour after hour. Pennington’s deposition was tedious, she looked half asleep and high on something to me. The last woman (sorry can’t remember her name) was saying she was scared of Johnny and had a big grin on her face. Witney at one point confessed she was drunk more often than not during the period described? Josh Drew I haven’t seen at all yet and it sounds like he was the most credible so I will look at what he said later today.

At this point It’s a long stretch for me to automatically assume all of Amber’s witnesses are lying, but when I watch them individually I don’t find them credible. Whatever the outcome, I think I’m going to be back where I’ve been for the last six years - I don’t believe Johnny did these terrible things but so much of it will remain unprovable either way and will continue to cast a long shadow over his life and career.

It’s undeniable that Johnny has had issues around alcohol and drugs, unfortunately this woman and her friends were the last people he should have been around. Most of them seem to have been freeloading wasters who were happy enough to live off his dollar and Witney for example, testifies that she did drugs with him. Amber’s schtick is that she was the self sacrificing saint but the tapes tell a different story of her exhausting hysteria and haranguing. I just hope the court of public opinion stays with Johnny.

Ultimately, why on earth would a guilty man have subjected himself to another court case involving such public exposure of his private life?

Ugh, a horrible day, I just had to turn it off at certain points.
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Unread post by Jackslady » Thu May 19, 2022 4:00 am

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This is very interesting and positive. This lawyer has been seated in court almost every day reporting on the jury’s reactions, well worth watching.*

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Unread post by AdeleAgain » Thu May 19, 2022 5:34 am

I think the summary from yesterday is that:

-It was AH's best day - it should be, frankly this is her case, she needs to be scoring points;
-Josh would have been credible if it hadn't been for the body cam - he did this testimony in 2019 but whoops, those damn cameras. No wonder he didn't turn up in person;
-Whitney's cross was actually all it needed to be - they have set up Jennifer Howell for rebuttal. Whitney agreed she was a trusted friend (as well as admitting inadvertently she is drunk most of the time). JD's time did not waste time on her cross - that will come in rebuttal (Jennifer Howell has done a deposition);
- The acting coach had the wrong script about Australia - said AH had told her JD hurt his finger with a bottle and doubled down on that;
- Between these people they have messed up the stairs incident and the 15 December incident - apparently Melanie went off script for that but I didn't see hers;
- Notice Whitney was not asked about December 2015? Her testimony was greatly narrowed. She also undermine her credibility when talking about what a wonderful person Amber is - we have heard the tapes.

JD's side get rebuttal and case summary to bring all of this together - we have to remember there are rarely "gotcha" moments with witnesses - we were given a real treat with AH in her own testimony which was all over the place; the cross which was perfection; topped by the redirect which I will still be watching in years to come.

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Unread post by Yaya » Thu May 19, 2022 6:37 am

Thank you fireflydances and Jackslady for both videos. I was a little flattened after AH friends depositions but these really helped to put things into perspective. Thank you also to AdeleAgain for your summary. :thankyou: :hug2:

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Unread post by Judymac » Thu May 19, 2022 7:04 am

fireflydances wrote:
Wed May 18, 2022 9:25 pm
So I made a lame attempt to describe my own failed and confused experience of watching Josh Drew's deposition. After Josh and looking for some real recap and some hope, I watched too many different online experts and found nothing but a bunch of shell shocked folks. Which really seems off to me -- one day can't be that horrific.

In any case, I finally found one lone video that recapped the day and offered some light. If you found the day depressing, maybe this will help.


The best You Tube channel is Emily D Baker. She is an attorney and former prosecutor.

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Unread post by ForeverYoung » Thu May 19, 2022 8:15 am

I would not want to be on the jury in this case. These videotaped depositions of former friends and associates put me to sleep and yesterday there were reports the jury was really bored. I guess none of these people agreed to come to the courthouse to support her.
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