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Unread post by Newt » Fri Dec 11, 2020 11:56 am

It's surprising to me because she's been so careless and amateurish on certain things, or maybe it's simply arrogance. ^^

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Unread post by Justme » Fri Dec 11, 2020 1:15 pm

I remember reading some AH's interview from 2012 or 2013 and I found her pretty eloquent and wit yet still very repulsive. Johnny praised her intelligence, but I never heard her say anything that would indicated that she's particularly smart, but I don't know her personally, maybe she is as bright as Steven says, my point is I can't exclude it and if it turns out to be true, I wouldn't be surprised.

Man, I lost fluency in English and I have some struggles with expressing my thoughts in this language, so I'm not sure if this is making any sense.

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Unread post by fireflydances » Fri Dec 11, 2020 10:13 pm

It's always seemed odd to me that JD would find AH worth pursuing, never mind marrying. Lots of stuff goes into decisions like that I guess-- one's age, insecurity about the future etc. I hope he eventually finds a lady who is true and real.
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Unread post by AdeleAgain » Sat Dec 12, 2020 2:13 am

Lbock thanks for posting the video of the two guys, one of whom worked with AH. Although the giggling and diversions were very annoying I found it illuminating into her character. He is probably right to say he doesn't have anything to say to JD's lawyers - but it is interesting background nonetheless.

Highlights (or lowlights) include the screaming matches with Tasya, that he went to AH's flat after fights and there was destruction and chaos, that she has an overinflated sense of her own importance, but that she can be mesmerising. I really think people need to stop denying that she is intelligent, charismatic and was breathtakingly beautiful back then - because as he points out for these very famous rich men - who let's face it have supermodels throwing themselves at them - she must have something. I suspect she does avidly read - not indepth but widely and quickly and so comes across as incredibly well read. She can probably fake interest and knowledge in a lot of things. She's incoherent when she is arguing because her position is not defensible so she uses lots of confusion and word salad to get away with her behaviour.

I just wish he would give some of the more specific examples he was clearly holding onto - they are obviously going to do other videos - they all but admitted that they were looking for something to do because of lockdown, and have just discovered the click power of Johnny's name.

It remains interesting and very telling to me that through all of this no one really significant has come through and said she is a lovely person to work with - we may feel that more Hollywood types should come out and defended Johnny now but since 2016 and for the 30 years before, almost every single person has said what a lovely guy he is to work with. She's got a lot of media and power support but none of them are doing it because she is loved or treasured. It is very clear that she is extremely lucky that she is manipulated herself into a position where she is a centre point for a bunch of different vested interests, from old school feminists who are hell bent on a certain narrative which is anti male, to those who Johnny has affronted by upturning the way Hollywood lawyers and power people made money through smoke, mirrors and a handshake.

But people shouldn't get too upset with this guy: the fact that she is a really manipulative, volatile, drug using, projectionist with a mean personality is - as he says - not really news to anyone, least of all JD"s lawyers.

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Unread post by Newt » Sat Dec 12, 2020 8:13 am

I don’t see why people would be upset with him. He’s probably risking the kind of scrutiny he likely doesn’t want by even saying anything. And I’m sure there’s some stuff he just can’t say and is not holding just for clicks. They address it in the video anyway.

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Unread post by Lbock » Sat Dec 12, 2020 9:10 am

I hope Johnny’s lawyers do reach out. He debunks her claim that she and Tasya had a perfectly 100% peaceful relationship and the argument/arrest was completely overblown.

He debunks her claim regarding her drug usage

He gives personal insight and experience with her “two person” persona or bi-polar. Keeping in mind how she is painting Johnny as charismatic and loveable to the world but a monster in private.

His experience of her behavior marches Johnny’s. The person he loved never existed. She never loved him but used him.

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Unread post by AdeleAgain » Sun Dec 13, 2020 4:18 am

Lbock those are good points actually - my point was more that his knowledge is historical but you are right, she has claimed the relationship with Tasya was - ooh how did she put it in one of her SM rants? "NEthing but peaceful" (sic).

And it is worth showing that the incident at Seattle airport was not an isolated misunderstanding.

Also - she is so hell bent on interviewing his exes about their experience of abuse which given her projectionist tendencies is a sure sign that it is her who had the abusive relationships.

I just did a quick scan of google news - my goodness the hit pieces aren't even really trying - everything has been so debunked. Yesterday I took a friend of mine Christmas shopping - he has recently got a new girlfriend and decided it was time to be a grown up and buy himself some perfume - I told him there is only one perfume for him to wear so we went to the Dior counter at a department store where he lives - out of London. They were completely sold out of all gift sets - he picked the newest version of the fragrance and they had only a few bottles left. We had a lovely chat to the two ladies working there - they had been given a staff briefing earlier in the week confirming Sauvage is the best selling perfume in the world for men and women. I said - it is because of your wonderful brand ambassador - and it was so delightful, they went all giggly. How nice to have a reaction that didn't mention any of the nonsense. They said as soon as they put the campaign picture up on display "it all starts" (ie the sales).

Then spoke to another friend in Paris last night - she had been shopping for perfume for her and her husband - all the Sauvage Christmas sets which they stock up on were completely gone.

It is not just people on the internet - this campaign really is doing well. This really warms my heart. Sauvage is the top seller every Christmas but I am sure they are getting an extra lift this year.

And my friend now smells delicious for his girlfriend.

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Unread post by Chocolat » Sun Dec 13, 2020 1:28 pm

AdeleAgain, what a heartwarming and 'good news' story about the sales of our favorite cologne/perfume, Sauvage.
It actually brought a tear to my eye. We certainly need goon news like that now. Kudos to Dior for standing by Johnny Depp.
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Unread post by Snowcat » Sun Dec 13, 2020 3:14 pm

Moonbeam wrote:
Thu Dec 10, 2020 5:04 pm
Thank you Lbock for that last video. I think there is still a lot of hidden info on AH's psyche and modus operandi. For example, she tried to have her Criminal Record expunged before going out with Johnny. What Else was on there??

This video also answers THR and Tatiana Siegel on their vile article about Johnny yesterday, very eloquently, as well as discussing Roberta Kaplan's quotes used therein. I am Sick of this smear campaign on Johnny!




Disclaimer: I Have NOT investigated, personally, this youtuber's character. I merely Agree With him. I found him great.
Moonbeam, thank you for this terrific find! It looks as though Tatiana banked on people's lack of knowledge, those who know very little about Johnny's background. When I looked at Johnny's exes list according to this article, I thought "Huh, never heard of him being romantically involved with a few of them!" I am also, so glad that this fellow covered the fact that Johnny and that other guy made up after the confrontation and also put things into context about the incident! Yeah "sources" but no names! Printing this rubbish piece does not make THR look too good. There is a reason why Johnny's called Hollywood "Hollyweird". I agree with this guy, too!!
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Unread post by Snowcat » Sun Dec 13, 2020 3:44 pm

AdeleAgain wrote:
Sun Dec 13, 2020 4:18 am

I just did a quick scan of google news - my goodness the hit pieces aren't even really trying - everything has been so debunked. Yesterday I took a friend of mine Christmas shopping - he has recently got a new girlfriend and decided it was time to be a grown up and buy himself some perfume - I told him there is only one perfume for him to wear so we went to the Dior counter at a department store where he lives - out of London. They were completely sold out of all gift sets - he picked the newest version of the fragrance and they had only a few bottles left. We had a lovely chat to the two ladies working there - they had been given a staff briefing earlier in the week confirming Sauvage is the best selling perfume in the world for men and women. I said - it is because of your wonderful brand ambassador - and it was so delightful, they went all giggly. How nice to have a reaction that didn't mention any of the nonsense. They said as soon as they put the campaign picture up on display "it all starts" (ie the sales).

Then spoke to another friend in Paris last night - she had been shopping for perfume for her and her husband - all the Sauvage Christmas sets which they stock up on were completely gone.

It is not just people on the internet - this campaign really is doing well. This really warms my heart. Sauvage is the top seller every Christmas but I am sure they are getting an extra lift this year.

And my friend now smells delicious for his girlfriend.
That's wonderful to hear, Adele! If I was still a freelance fragrance demonstrator (someone who is hired by the distribution company to promote a particular product line during launches, promotions and/or special occasions, usually in department store locations), I would have aggressively gone after the Dior line. I would have made a killing!
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Unread post by Lbock » Sun Dec 13, 2020 6:17 pm

Wonderful story Adele

Here is another video. Her voice gets on my nerves but she has a big following with the comic con audience


This is a great channel too
https://youtube.com/c/ThatUmbrellaGuy

And this lawyer who hasn’t really followed the Depp vases Also gives her opinion on judgment


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Unread post by Moonbeam » Mon Dec 14, 2020 6:45 am

If anyone is interested, there is a short survey of Johnny supporters that I found well worded. It isn't invasive, either, in my opinion.



Thank you Lbock for the videos of different viewpoints than Tatiana Siegel's 'op-ed'. You know, I don't remember her actually using the word 'alleged' in her accusations and points made. Isn't that another libelous piece, or is it ok, since he lost his libel case in the UK? It is incredibly offensive, to say the least.
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Unread post by Newt » Mon Dec 14, 2020 9:54 am

I'm guessing Johnny will just ignore it? Otherwise he'd be suing left and right :-)

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Unread post by Moonbeam » Mon Dec 14, 2020 10:17 am

There will be a Steven and Jason Podcast Dec. 15 at 12:00AM, but it doesn't mention the time zone. It says it is in 14 hours. I believe they are set to discuss the THR piece on Johnny. Hopefully, Steven will shed more light on AH.

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Unread post by Lbock » Mon Dec 14, 2020 11:55 am

Moonbeam wrote:
Mon Dec 14, 2020 6:45 am
If anyone is interested, there is a short survey of Johnny supporters that I found well worded. It isn't invasive, either, in my opinion.



Thank you Lbock for the videos of different viewpoints than Tatiana Siegel's 'op-ed'. You know, I don't remember her actually using the word 'alleged' in her accusations and points made. Isn't that another libelous piece, or is it ok, since he lost his libel case in the UK? It is incredibly offensive, to say the least.
If Kaplan is truly AH advisor then I think she is getting Court discovery Johnny is turning over which explains how they know his film contact info and even (I believe) his divorce settlement with Lori. The “N-“ is allegedly and lots of no named sources. Like the romantic relationship names were listed in court docs (taken from a very recently deleted gossip piece from years ago)

This was TMG gameplay. Smear him in court docs as it’s protected from defamation. (Judge throws it out so they don’t have to prove) and media cherry picks out if context to smear him to public