The Lawsuits Thread

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Unread post by meeps » Thu Feb 06, 2020 3:11 am

Yes :)
But more seriously - yes, Johnny is bigger than her, although he is not that big, and probably also stronger. But for me the pertinent question would be: who is the most vicious of the two of them?
And I definitely think, that Ms Heard wins there hands down!

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Unread post by AdeleAgain » Thu Feb 06, 2020 3:16 am

Dear Lord - doesn't this just say it all? Tweet from Kathy Griffin:

"I am not going to read one single response, so haters, don’t bother. It’s a simple but detailed thesis explaining how it progressed. It feels like the campaign against her is very well-funded? and the volume makes me feel it is very well coordinated?" (she links an article which basically speaks in generalisations and ignores any actual facts or specifics about the case).

I mean - I can almost sympathise more with the deluded souls who are picking the conversations apart and clutching at straws - but if you don't even have the confidence to look at the evidence and dispute it? Absolutely unbelievable.

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Unread post by thiefcat » Thu Feb 06, 2020 5:03 am

I listened to the latest audio tape and got confused for a while.

She said look what happened to me in April, May, December. Why Johnny is not saying anything to defend himself knowing it is being taped?
Is it because he speaks very slowly and that she is constantly screaming?

Why did she say his bodyguard is lying? (Travis?)

I know he said something like she is defending herself of something he never do at the end of the audio tape. But I thought he is defending to matters like he did not tell about her domestic violence arrest and striper stuff.

Amber sounds like a manuipulative psychopath in this audio definitely. I am just concerned over some of the things she said and he is not reacting or defending himself.

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Unread post by meeps » Thu Feb 06, 2020 8:22 am

I have had a friend for many years, who manipulated and lied like Amber does here. To be fair my friend was never violent - it was all words with her. Twisted and untrue words, though. But after a while I stopped/gave up on defending myself, because it didn't change anything. She just turned it around to all being my fault from start to finish, no matter what I said, and one gets tired after a while trying to get through to the ... person, and make her admit, that she has done anything wrong.
Insert any bad word you like there :)
Plus Johnny might have just let Amber talk most of the time - given her enough rope to hang herself, so to speak. Knowing, or hoping, that if ever he could get himself to let other people hear the tape, those people would be able to hear, how crazy she sounds.
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Unread post by ForeverYoung » Thu Feb 06, 2020 9:12 am

It seems to me that Johnny did his best to avoid the situations getting out of control and anything that happened to her could have been in self defense or what she CONSIDERED to be abuse, like maybe pushing her away hard or something.

I think what he meant by her "defending" herself was the dirty way she played the media. He practically begged her to settle this out of court and keep it private but she wouldn't agree. She really didn't think he would file papers but once he got slapped with reality and gave up trying to reason with her she started getting upset.

Amber accused him of leaking information like arrest records that anyone could find out by paying a simple fee. She grossly under estimated the Depp fans and the lengths we will go for him.

Well, she pooped in her bed and now she has to lie in it.
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Unread post by ForeverYoung » Thu Feb 06, 2020 9:20 am

Someone on IFOD twitter posted a transcript of the phone conversation.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/b235lpr3i6n93 ... l.pdf?dl=0
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Unread post by thiefcat » Thu Feb 06, 2020 9:23 am

Thank you guys!

I thought it was really a fantastic last weekend and now the new audio tape just surfaced and people might get sway again. Article from Perez Hilton and The Blast seem to suggest it is mutual abuse. Hope more people will come to light and support him! I can't imagine what a great heart he has to suffer in silence all this time while having these tapes. If she had learnt to keep her mouth shut and stop using DV platform to gain further fame, I am quite sure he will let it go.

Good news is peition to remove Amber is now 194K, reaching 200K soon!!!!

Does anybody know what happened between Raquel and AH? I meant her ex BFF

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Unread post by MexiCan » Thu Feb 06, 2020 9:44 am

ForeverYoung wrote:
Thu Feb 06, 2020 9:12 am
Well, she pooped in her bed and now she has to lie in it.
:harhar:

Otherwise, yes I agree with your view. From the context of the other tape, seems like he avoided where he could, which she hated because she wanted him to FIGHT, but they may have ended up in situations where he could not get away from her attacks and may have pushed her off him etc. If she got hurt in those situations she would have seen that as abuse (she seems to believe herself) and he may have even felt guilt about it, hence why he is not denying it on this tape, I think. He probably got used to letting a LOT of stuff go.

He has been sitting on so much evidence in favor of himself all these years..still cared enough about her not to bring it forward. Until now..

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Unread post by myfave » Thu Feb 06, 2020 10:29 am

I listened to the second tape and it does NOT sound like he was defending himself against putting his hands on her in this one. It DOES sound like there was mutual abuse. I’m sure in my heart that she started it. The tape conversation sounds to me like he also went at her- probably in self defense... but doesn’t sound good none the less. This breaks my heart
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Unread post by Chocolat » Thu Feb 06, 2020 11:45 am

So far, I've only read snippets of this latest recording but going by what has been discussed, I'm confident that Johnny's excellent lawyers could reason how any hands on her was the result of self defense. It's clearly obvious that Amber Heard was the aggressor throughout their relationship, even before they were married. We observed her erratic behavior with her partners through the years and the pattern seemed to get more violent when her career began to improve because of the Depp name. We know Johnny is not a violent person but at some point when being physically attacked the way Heard is capable of, would provoke anyone to defend themselves.
My goodness, the abuse he suffered from her is appalling. He has had a long time issue with one of his eyes, so who knows what her punches to the face would do to worsen his vision. A cigarette burn to Johnny's beautiful face...WHO does that? Torturers, that's who. I wouldn't be surprised if she was jealous of his good looks and subconsciously wanted to disfigure him because her acts of violence are typical of a psychopath. I'm really surprised he left Australia with her after the severed fingertip incident. We all cringed when we learned the truth and questioned if Johnny would ever be able to play his beloved guitar again. The doctor who examined Johnny explained that it was an act of velocity. Amber fluffed it off with a lie.
There's going to be some concerns over these recordings but overall, I believe Johnny's mountain of evidence and gentle nature is all the proof needed to finally sink Amber Heard into oblivion.
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Unread post by Lbock » Thu Feb 06, 2020 2:40 pm

I felt she was gaslighting him the whole time. She was talking so fast so he couldn’t deny anything if he wanted to. He was recording because talking to her violated the TRO so he is protecting himself by any claims she could make that he was threatening etc. so he remained calm. She spoke of his legal team doing things behind his back and she secretly accidentally recorded Jerry and Sean claiming there was some altercation he did, All of these are lies. Remember she knows about Ed White so she knows something about TMG and Bloom and not trusting them, they swindled him. So she is playing into his paranoia not to trust his people. Her goal in this call is a quick settlement. She berates him for filing a legal answer. If he didn’t he would be in default and she would have gotten spousal support, probably the condos and her legal fees and probably allot of more than $7m

I think his agreement to the call and record was to see what her goals were and what claims she might further make. Wasser repped Pitt/Jolie and the said the same as announcing dealing with it privately. So sounds like Wassar was giving same advice. Wassar does not like to play out in media. She didn’t leak to TMZ. Marty Singer could have, that’s his style.

I believe strongly anything Johnny did was in self defense and especially to escape. Pushing her (hands on) to get away could have caused her to fall explaining bruises. He admitted to throwing a can back at her. I think the “monster” was him going beserk in Australia after she cut off his finger and put a cigarette out in his face and locking herself away leaving him to bleed to death. She didn’t want to stay and fight for that one. She knew she pushed any human to their limit that day
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Unread post by Lbock » Thu Feb 06, 2020 2:42 pm

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Unread post by myfave » Thu Feb 06, 2020 3:11 pm

Thank you chocolate and Lbock. I feel much better now. This whole thing is nasty and i hope it goes in our Johnny’s favor.
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Unread post by ForeverYoung » Thu Feb 06, 2020 3:25 pm

Unless Amber can show me proof, I'm not believing anything she says because she has been caught lying so many times already. None of her pics even have a date and/or time stamp. She is manipulative and will say anything to get someone to believe her. Johnny isn't the one out there doing speeches, interviews and videos about domestic abuse like she is while she was abusive to him and admitted to it.

I know one thing for sure....if I were married to her and had to listen to her go on and on like we heard it would take every ounce of my being not to want to deck her and lay her out just so I wouldn't have to listen to her anymore. :yuck2:
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Unread post by justintime » Thu Feb 06, 2020 3:26 pm

Thank you so very much for your posts, Chocolat and Lbock: The heartbreaking voices of reason.

After listening to (audio tape) and reading (transcript) AH’s erratic, incessant babbling, incomplete thoughts, accusations, endless ridiculing, jumping from defense to offense and back again so often, there’s literally no telling who, what, or when she is actually referencing, EXCEPT when she details “The Hoax 3-Year Plan”. That is clear as day - and Johnny just listens to it all in utter disbelief.

After AH lays that out, it’s impossible, really, to know if there was ever a single non-self-serving word or thought to have passed her lips or taken root in that twisted brain of hers throughout the entirety of their relationship. More importantly, whatever criminal defense “professionals” her team engaged to assess the potential value of her years of accumulated, manufactured “evidence”, I have to assume she is now right back where she started - no credible evidence upon which to determine she was justified in claiming to be a victim of domestic violence at the hands of Johnny Depp. Period.

Just read your post, ForeverYoung. :agreesign:
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