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Unread post by justintime » Wed Nov 13, 2019 4:07 pm

I guess where I was going by posing such a simplistic scenario was to, selfishly, vent my layperson’s frustration with what appears to be, in this case, a broad, hands-off policy by the Court through its day-to-day soft decisions, punctuated with far-reaching critical rulings of an excessive, intrusive, almost impossible-to-satisfy nature.

Despite pending motions presenting challenges to the contrary, this defamation lawsuit was initially found to have merit as it was presented. Embedded in that finding of merit, and by extension granting permission to proceed, is the promise encased within our legal system of a fair and ethical dissemination of the relevant facts.

To date, each party involved - the Court, the Plaintiff, and the Defense - has contributed to the suffocation of that promise, whether by indulging palpable exasperation with actions carrying irrevocable consequences, through insufficient preparation/presentation, or in relentlessly pursuing a rabid truth-be-damned m.o. Not okay. That’s not justice. Yes, it happens everyday. But it needn’t. More importantly, it shouldn’t.

The only “party” in a position to ensure this merit-driven lawsuit has any chance of eventually dispensing some semblance of justice to its Plaintiff, or is fairly found lacking, is of course, the Court. Time for the circus to end, time for the parties to be reminded what the lawsuit is about, and time for the Court to reclaim its reins.
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Unread post by Ruby Begonia » Wed Nov 13, 2019 9:18 pm

3 new docs from the 11/8 motions hearing have appeared on the court site today, all by Poopy's side related to this:
Defendant's Motion to Strike Plaintiff's Expert Disclosures and for Bifurcation Praecipe
Esssentially, Poopy & Co are demanding that Johnny's key experts be prevented from testifying because they claim Johnny's side hasn't provided enough information about what these experts are goingvto say to give Poopy's side enough time to make up her response and produce rebuttal experts. Once you read about the experts, you know that Poopy knows darn well what they'll be talking about.

The most interesting part is the top 2 documents, which on fact lists JD's experts and what they plan to testify about; very long but interesting. My brief summary:

Richard Marks, long-time entertainment industry exec who will opine as to what criteria studios use to hire an actor for a film role and to market their merchandise; the impact claims of domestic and physical abuse would have on an actor's career; the impact a positive jury verdict would have on an actor's career.

Bryan Neumeister, forensics expert who will obviously opine on the validity of Poopy's videos, texts, photos, etc.

Michael Spindler, CPA and Economic Damages Expert, who will testify that the OpEd resulted in damages to JD in excess of $50 million.

Jack Whigham and Christian Carino, Johnny's theatrical agents at Creative Arts Agency, who will opine as to the damage the OpEd has caused from an agent's perspective.

Edward White and Robin Baum will each opine as to how the OpEd has damaged Johnny from their perspectives as his accountant and publicist.

Poopy's side also is demanding bifurcation, which seems to be a request to separate (move to a post-trial date?) arguments about damages (this is where the big $$ is) from the initial trial argument over the OpEd. Someone else can probably explain this better.

link to court docs

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Unread post by ForeverYoung » Wed Nov 13, 2019 9:43 pm

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Unread post by Lbock » Fri Nov 15, 2019 8:47 am

Getting ready for work. Will be back with a better update. But it’s confirmed AH is suing TMG (in Los Angeles) to compel them to honor the discovery subpoena filed as an unlimited case asking more than $25k in damages. I imagine TMG will cave unless they are being investigated by the feds and can leverage that somehow to avoid this

As a reminder what they are looking for (Tmg business records as they relate to Johnny business and personal) here is a recent Blast article where Kaplan lays it all out

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Unread post by Ruby Begonia » Fri Nov 15, 2019 8:15 pm

Hoping ForeverYoung or some other smart zoner will post the links to the 2 new documents sonce I can't; link to Fairfax Court below.



Amber has subpoenaed Jerry Bruckheimer, asking for documents and communications related to any alcohol/drugs Johnny may have consumed, any violence he was involved in (even if he did not commit it), Amber Heard, statements by Stuart Beatty and the big mouth Disney studio jerk Sean Bailey concerning rebooting the POTC franchise, the box office for DMTNT, and Johnny's participation in the series going forward, plus a lot of other similar things.

I am sure this will endear her to Hollywood producers and studios everywhere (NOT).

Johnny's team filed a motion that was granted to move the hearing about bifurcation from Nov to December 5th. ( It looks like they requested the 15th, but that's a Sunday).
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Unread post by Lbock » Fri Nov 15, 2019 8:34 pm

So Kaplan of Metoo/Timesup is going after Jerry and Disney (subpoenaed production records in August). If they don’t help I’m sure she’s ready to blast them in today’s women in power environment covering and protected a Johnny

I always felt she took a direct swipe at them and a threat in her OpEd. She more or less saying they didn’t care for Johnny but $$ speak first
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Unread post by ForeverYoung » Fri Nov 15, 2019 9:44 pm

Ruby Begonia wrote:
Fri Nov 15, 2019 8:15 pm
Hoping ForeverYoung or some other smart zoner will post the links to the 2 new documents sonce I can't; link to Fairfax Court below.



Amber has subpoenaed Jerry Bruckheimer, asking for documents and communications related to any alcohol/drugs Johnny may have consumed, any violence he was involved in (even if he did not commit it), Amber Heard, statements by Stuart Beatty and the big mouth Disney studio jerk Sean Bailey concerning rebooting the POTC franchise, the box office for DMTNT, and Johnny's participation in the series going forward, plus a lot of other similar things.

I am sure this will endear her to Hollywood producers and studios everywhere (NOT).

Johnny's team filed a motion that was granted to move the hearing about bifurcation from Nov to December 5th. ( It looks like they requested the 15th, but that's a Sunday).
Here you go. :dillingerhello:

https://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/circuit/s ... 3-2019.pdf

https://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/circuit/s ... 4-2019.pdf
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Unread post by Ruby Begonia » Fri Nov 15, 2019 9:49 pm

Lbock wrote:
Fri Nov 15, 2019 8:34 pm
Imagine a powerful man as a ship, like the Titanic. That ship is a huge enterprise. When it strikes an iceberg, there are a lot of people on board desperate to patch up holes — not because they believe in or even care about the ship, but because their own fates depend on the enterprise.
I think this is smug projection on her part. She's the one who hates him. JD may have been less than perfect at times during the long shoots for these 5 films, the last 2 of which had terrible scripts IMHO. I imagine Jerry and Iger are both still fond of JD and, being industry veterans, appreciate his skills, longevity and the billions he helped bring Disney through his portrayal of Jack Sparrow. Kevin McNalley admires JD, and recently Keira Knightly, Marty Klebba and Lee Arenberg (I think) all said they couldn't imagine a successful POTC film without Jack Sparrow/JD. Jerry Bruckheimer said the same in 2017. ( A little concerning that JD's old lawyer, Marty Singer, is Jerry's attorney, though.)

Poopy's picture of the ships balanced on her shoulders only hurts her defamation case. While box office wasn't as high for the 5th sequel (what 5th sequel is?), Beatty's HEARSAY media soundbite was that Disney was "thinking about" a reboot with new characters like Red, and Bailey said something similar. Disney periodically sent out those trial balloon pieces gauging public reaction to Pirates without Sparrow, and the reaction was overwhelmingly negative. Even the Deadpool writers dropped out.

So Disney, while concerned about the fallout from Heard's divorce allegations and her 3 years of NDA-violating media slams at JD, still hadn't made a definite decision about Johnny/Sparrow being part of a 6th film. Poopy's December OpEd tipped the scales: they dropped him within mere days. As with Crimes of Grindelwald, every Depp film would be met with a Heard media piece decrying the use of "abuser" Depp and designed to hurt the box office.
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Unread post by Ruby Begonia » Fri Nov 15, 2019 9:53 pm

:toastingpirates: Knew I could count on you, ForeverYoung! Thank you!

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Unread post by justintime » Sat Nov 16, 2019 2:32 am

Ruby Begonia wrote:
Johnny's team filed a motion that was granted to move the hearing about bifurcation from Nov to December 5th. ( It looks like they requested the 15th, but that's a Sunday).
ForeverYoung wrote:
Fri Nov 15, 2019 9:44 pm

Here you go. :dillingerhello:

https://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/circuit/s ... 3-2019.pdf
The requested date is clearly for 12-13-19, which is a Friday. Someone misread the “3” as a “5” (apparently nobody checked the document), said the 15th is a Sunday (which it is) and Johnny’s team lost the extra week which they so dearly needed . . .
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Unread post by Chocolat » Sat Nov 16, 2019 3:32 am

Amber Heard's request to have Johnny go through an independent mental evaluation was denied.

PDF file transcript, thanks to Brian McPherson, here:

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Unread post by Cesar'sSusie » Sat Nov 16, 2019 3:57 am

Thanks to Everyone who is keeping us abreast of this 'circus'. I'm surprised at how far this witch will go so she comes out looking Right and Vindicated. It's looking to me like she can't stop this...because she knows she's completely wrong about Johnny and his 'abuse'. If Johnny was this horrible abuser, he would have shown those traits years ago! My blessings and good thoughts and prayers are heaped upon him and his family & friends as long as it takes to clear his name! Love you Tonto! :tonto2:
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Unread post by justintime » Sat Nov 16, 2019 4:20 am

Chocolat wrote:
Sat Nov 16, 2019 3:32 am
Amber Heard's request to have Johnny go through an independent mental evaluation was denied.

PDF file transcript, thanks to Brian McPherson, here:

Oh, oh, THANK YOU, sooooooo very much, Chocolat!! I thought I’d made a mistake - I had “IME” on my calendar for today and when nothing was mentioned I assumed I’d gotten it mixed up with all the other stuff and had the wrong date.

Thank you, to Mr. McPherson as well!

I will read it then go to bed. I think I’ll be able to sleep now.
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Unread post by ForeverYoung » Sat Nov 16, 2019 1:02 pm

Here is the link to the court site for the Virginia case. Where you see "Select High Profile Case" click on the arrow on the right and then click on Johnny's case. This will bring you to the documents.

https://www.fairfaxcounty.gov/circuit/h ... file-cases

The denial for the IME exam is not on there yet but it was a stretch anyway for them to think an IME exam now would prove his mental state three years ago. :smh: :facepalm:
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Unread post by Chocolat » Sat Nov 16, 2019 4:50 pm

Thanks ForeverYoung!
Curious... if the denial for the IME document is not posted yet, how did Brian get a copy in a PDF file?
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