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by FlowerBySea
Fri Jul 17, 2020 3:47 am
Forum: News & Views
Topic: The Lawsuits Thread
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My understanding is that David Sherborne doesn't have to take the incidents in chronological order - I think Wass did so to build a momentum, show increasingly out of control behaviour etc. But given that there was one incident she didn't question JD on (and therefore Sherborne couldn't) I presume ...
by FlowerBySea
Fri Jul 17, 2020 2:06 am
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Topic: The Lawsuits Thread
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https://twitter.com/nickwallis/status/1283870177558507521 Does anyone know why next Thursday and Friday are in square brackets? Does that mean the dates are preliminary and could be pushed back if Amber's testimony takes more time (as did Johnny's)? So next Friday might not be "the final deadline f...
by FlowerBySea
Thu Jul 16, 2020 5:28 pm
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Topic: The Lawsuits Thread
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Ok. I have been reading Nick Wallis twitter feed since the trial started. He says that he will only be there Friday, Monday, and possibly part of Tuesday. Does anyone know if anyone else in London is tweeting this trial? I would really hate to miss AH on the stand. I'm also hoping for someone else ...
by FlowerBySea
Thu Jul 16, 2020 3:15 pm
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Topic: The Lawsuits Thread
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I'm sure she will be well prepared, but let's see how it goes over the whole three days... Also, it's not just about appearing sympathetic. Her evidence has to line up, and so far there are just a lot of holes in her accusations and no convincing facts.
by FlowerBySea
Thu Jul 16, 2020 1:08 pm
Forum: News & Views
Topic: The Lawsuits Thread
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The Lawsuits Thread

Winona Ryder's full witness statement: https://wixlabs-pdf-dev.appspot.com/assets/pdfjs/web/viewer.html?file=%2Fpdfproxy%3Finstance%3DL3Tcm57VwASSAUo5huEwYnK4Fw7sgr6wABnDJz247b4.eyJpbnN0YW5jZUlkIjoiMzQxZWY5OGUtZTBjZS00YzUwLWI4N2ItNGExODJiYjBiYzhkIiwiYXBwRGVmSWQiOiIxM2VlMTBhMy1lY2I5LTdlZmYtNDI5OC1kMm...
by FlowerBySea
Thu Jul 16, 2020 1:01 pm
Forum: News & Views
Topic: The Lawsuits Thread
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But on body language I know the bit you mean about smirking - but I do think there is a difference. AH literally smirked and eye rolled at hearing/discussing hitting him. He did the classic embarrassed, self deprecating smile when he spoken about lying to protect her. It doesn't matter, it's facts ...
by FlowerBySea
Thu Jul 16, 2020 12:30 pm
Forum: News & Views
Topic: The Lawsuits Thread
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:lol: He doesn't look 57 for sure. It's amazing how he aged backwards since they split up (or - putting it in a less positive way - how unwell he looked during the marriage). The people I talked to in person also told me Amber doesn't seem to be a genuine person, her testimonies don't seem believeab...
by FlowerBySea
Thu Jul 16, 2020 12:08 pm
Forum: News & Views
Topic: The Lawsuits Thread
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That's interesting, what made NGN ever think they would get Winona or Vanessa to say he hit them? And again, I'm still confused why they didn't summon Kate. She's most associated with his "wild child" phase. In the car he held the dog out of the window and made other comments about the dog/microwave...
by FlowerBySea
Thu Jul 16, 2020 9:29 am
Forum: News & Views
Topic: The Lawsuits Thread
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The confusion continues: Johnny's legal team wants to call it quits early (2:30 London time) / adjourn to tomorrow. So much for making up for lost time?
AdeleAgain wrote:
Thu Jul 16, 2020 9:14 am
Sorry I keep posting you guys are like my support group!
I feel the same way :giveflower:
by FlowerBySea
Thu Jul 16, 2020 9:06 am
Forum: News & Views
Topic: The Lawsuits Thread
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Reading through the witness statements Winona and Vanessa made, I think it was the right decision to move on without hearing them. It would have been another day of Ms Wass asking "Did he take cocaine? But he did take cocaine! You're lying about the cocaine! Did he take ecstasy? Yes he did! You're l...
by FlowerBySea
Thu Jul 16, 2020 8:33 am
Forum: News & Views
Topic: The Lawsuits Thread
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Maybe JD's team was keeping Winona and Vanessa last for a reason and not really planning to use them unless they thought it was necessary. I had that thought as well! Winona especially. Vanessa and their relationship/kids were brought up by the Sun, so it made more sense for her to testify. I reall...
by FlowerBySea
Thu Jul 16, 2020 8:11 am
Forum: News & Views
Topic: The Lawsuits Thread
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I think they were just not summoned for cross-examination, but their witness statements are still valid. The way I'm reading it, NGN didn't file the correct paperwork to question Winona and Vanessa if Johnny said he didn't want to hear them. Mr. Sherborne for Johnny is quoted by Nick on Twitter in r...
by FlowerBySea
Thu Jul 16, 2020 8:01 am
Forum: News & Views
Topic: The Lawsuits Thread
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The problem I see for Amber is that there are no pictures that show her injured in a way that would match the violence she claims was inflicted on her. She's talking about having her head bashed against the wall repeatedly, hair pulled out in clumps, being dragged over broken glass etc. like it's a ...
by FlowerBySea
Thu Jul 16, 2020 7:35 am
Forum: News & Views
Topic: The Lawsuits Thread
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You're exactly right, she got nothing to support their claims of Johnny being abusive. It was at most uncomfortable for some of the witnesses themselves. The previous statement I quoted about Winona and Vanessa was apparently wrong - it was Johnny who dropped them as witnesses, according to NGN. The...
by FlowerBySea
Thu Jul 16, 2020 7:14 am
Forum: News & Views
Topic: The Lawsuits Thread
Replies: 6148
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That might have been me, I definitely thought it was a good thing her first day would be Monday and not Friday... But alas. I think Ms Wass got a few of the witnesses sweating a bit, Kevin Murphy I think went a bit unfortunate? But it's never about Johnny being abusive, she hasn't gotten any further...