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thatgirl
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 11:02 pm |
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My first book discussion - YIPPEE!!
I've only read to page 3 so far, but I must say that the discussion that I've read is fascinating. So many things that I'd not thought of - I love having all the different views to bring new ideas & possibilities to the surface.
As I read, I thought Antoine was using Happy Days as an escape from reality. When living there, he was able to avoid all the stresses and responsibilities of daily life that the rest of the world deals with all the time: bills, shopping, cooking, cleaning, family, errands, work, car maintenance, etc. He was able to avoid everything for the price of room & board.
I could see him as a man trying to escape his life after being disillusioned with life. Most specifically I thought him disillusioned with his marriage & family due to his lack of investment in them. It's as if he never invested himself fully in anything, so he got nothing out of it - a "reap what you sow" sort of thing.
I've known people who refuse to do anything unless they can do it perfectly. They refuse to try to avoid failure. I wonder if Antoine was a bit like this
Perhaps it was depression, as was mentioned early on. Or maybe calling it an experiment was a fancy label for his laziness.
_________________________________________________________ My eyesight's as good as ever, just so you know. ~CJS
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Depputante
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 4:47 pm |
Joined: Sun Nov 13, 2005 3:48 am Posts: 1337 Location: Beyond the paradigm.
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Out of curiosity, I looked up the meaning of the name Antoine --> Anthony, and found this:
Other famous bearers include the 3rd-century Saint Anthony the Abbot, a hermit from Egypt who founded monasticism.
The word monasticism is found to be in a Catholic Dictionary, meaning the act of dwelling alone.
_________________________________________________________ “The scariest enemy is from within. Allowing yourself to be limited and conform to what you're expected to conform to.”~JD
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thatgirl
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 7:49 pm |
Joined: Mon Oct 23, 2006 3:38 pm Posts: 1083 Location: Oklahoma
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DeppInTheHeartOfTexas wrote: I thought Antoine was disillusioned and trying to escape too but yet he seems to be still interested in life, although in a more objective, unfeeling sort of way. He is certainly a hard fellow to peg.  The part about still being interested in life - in a clinical way - is what I think too. I didn't express that part when I was posting before.
_________________________________________________________ My eyesight's as good as ever, just so you know. ~CJS
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thatgirl
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 7:49 pm |
Joined: Mon Oct 23, 2006 3:38 pm Posts: 1083 Location: Oklahoma
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Depputante wrote: Out of curiosity, I looked up the meaning of the name Antoine --> Anthony, and found this:
Other famous bearers include the 3rd-century Saint Anthony the Abbot, a hermit from Egypt who founded monasticism.
The word monasticism is found to be in a Catholic Dictionary, meaning the act of dwelling alone.
Makes sense then, that Antoine was chosen for the name. Very interesting.
_________________________________________________________ My eyesight's as good as ever, just so you know. ~CJS
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DeppInTheHeartOfTexas
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 8:01 pm |
Joined: Mon Jun 21, 2004 10:43 pm Posts: 10376 Location: Austin
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He certainly could have chosen the name for that reason. Interesting find, Depputante!
_________________________________________________________ Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming -
Wow! What a ride!
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thatgirl
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 8:14 pm |
Joined: Mon Oct 23, 2006 3:38 pm Posts: 1083 Location: Oklahoma
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thatgirl wrote: Depputante wrote: Out of curiosity, I looked up the meaning of the name Antoine --> Anthony, and found this:
Other famous bearers include the 3rd-century Saint Anthony the Abbot, a hermit from Egypt who founded monasticism.
The word monasticism is found to be in a Catholic Dictionary, meaning the act of dwelling alone. Makes sense then, that Antoine was chosen for the name. Very interesting. What I posted doesn't sound like it did in my head when I first posted it.
What I meant was - It makes sense, then, that the name Antoine was chosen - if that's why it was chosen. Very interesting.
_________________________________________________________ My eyesight's as good as ever, just so you know. ~CJS
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DeppInTheHeartOfTexas
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 9:47 pm |
Joined: Mon Jun 21, 2004 10:43 pm Posts: 10376 Location: Austin
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thatgirl, it made perfect sense to me! 
_________________________________________________________ Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming -
Wow! What a ride!
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Liz
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 3:22 am |
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_________________________________________________________ You can't judge a book by its cover.
The only thing that matters is the ending. It's the most important part of the story.
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Depputante
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 1:41 pm |
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Quote: What makes him so jaded?
In the section of the Magic show, (p.65, bottom) he says he's always been used as a scapegoat.
Last edited by Depputante on Thu Dec 14, 2006 2:08 pm, edited 1 time in total.
_________________________________________________________ “The scariest enemy is from within. Allowing yourself to be limited and conform to what you're expected to conform to.”~JD
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Liz
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 1:47 pm |
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Depputante wrote: Quote: What makes him so jaded? In the section of the Magic show, he says he's always been used as a scapegoat.
Hmmm. Good catch, Depputante!
_________________________________________________________ You can't judge a book by its cover.
The only thing that matters is the ending. It's the most important part of the story.
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