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DeppInTheHeartOfTexas
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Post subject: Chocolat Question #3 ~ Vianne  Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2006 8:30 am |
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Let’s discuss Vianne. What is her role in the story?
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Endora
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2006 8:52 am |
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A quick answer which maybe I'll come back to: I think she starts as a catalyst, that is she speeds up a reaction that would have taken place naturally but does not necessarily take part in it. She is not changed by the reaction, but her action will only take place in very specific conditions.
Can you tell I've been helping my daughter revise her science?
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Gilbert's Girl
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2006 8:58 am |
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Endora wrote: A quick answer which maybe I'll come back to: I think she starts as a catalyst, that is she speeds up a reaction that would have taken place naturally but does not necessarily take part in it. She is not changed by the reaction, but her action will only take place in very specific conditions.
Can you tell I've been helping my daughter revise her science?
thats a pretty good answer, I think you've summed her up quite well 
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DeppInTheHeartOfTexas
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2006 9:01 am |
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Very scientific explanation, Endora! 
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Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming -
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lumineuse
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2006 9:22 am |
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I think she was the counterpart to Reynaud - where he stood for repression, she stood for expression. Where he stood for judgement, she stood for acceptance. Where he stood for self-denial, she stood for wonder and enjoyment. Where he stood for death, she stood for life.
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rustyred
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2006 9:29 am |
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Vianne - a rose amongst thorns.
I do like the catalyst analogy,
plus I agree with Lumi - she is the extreme opposite of Reynauld -she is strong and believes in herself
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Gilbert's Girl
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2006 9:46 am |
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Liz wrote: Ladies, you have a way with words this morning.  Plus I agree with all of you.
Some do ,and since I haven't I'm just letting everyone else have their say which seems to be what I want to say also. I agree with everyone
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DeppInTheHeartOfTexas
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2006 9:49 am |
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The mirror image analogy seems to fit here. I do believe she had her own insecurities and fears though and I think she did change a bit as the story progressed.
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Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming -
Wow! What a ride!
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KYwoman
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2006 9:52 am |
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I agree with you ladies and I want to add to some of what DITHOT just said about Vianne's own change. I do think she is the agent of change in this storyline, but she also has an arc of change herself and wrestles with her own demons and comes to terms with some things about herself/past as well.
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luvdepp
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2006 9:57 am |
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I agree with Vianne being a catalyst for change and also the mirror opposite of Reynauld. Except that they were alike in that they both had fears to overcome. I enjoyed being able to see the story through both of their perspectives.
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lumineuse
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2006 10:13 am |
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luvdepp wrote: I agree with Vianne being a catalyst for change and also the mirror opposite of Reynauld. Except that they were alike in that they both had fears to overcome. I enjoyed being able to see the story through both of their perspectives.
It was interesting to be able to read both points of view. I actually had more sympathy for Reynaud on this reading than I did the first time around.
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2006 10:55 am |
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you pretty much have said what I wanted..
on the part of Vianne fighting her own fear I think the big difference between the two is that Vianne understands her fight while Reynaud tries to avoid them.
greets,
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Liz
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2006 11:54 am |
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es wrote: you pretty much have said what I wanted..
on the part of Vianne fighting her own fear I think the big difference between the two is that Vianne understands her fight while Reynaud tries to avoid them.
greets,
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True, es. She tries to fight her own fears, making an effort to free herself from them, whereas Reynaud lets his fears rule his life. He is chained to them.
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2006 12:50 pm |
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Vianne to me is change -- in everyone in the village and in herself. And she is the reflection counterpoint to Reynaud. In a way they feed off each other.
Love all the comments so far. Insightful, all.
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