It is currently Wed Jul 30, 2014 9:17 pm

All times are UTC - 5 hours [ DST ]




 Page 1 of 2 [ 17 posts ]  Go to page
1, 2  Next
Author Message
 Post subject: Attica Question #9 ~ Writing Style
PostPosted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 12:14 pm 
JDZ Moderator
User avatar

Joined: Thu Jun 24, 2004 2:13 pm
Posts: 12408
Location: The Left Coast
Keeping in mind that this is a “young adult” book, what did you think of Garry Kilworth’s writing style?



_________________________________________________________
You can't judge a book by its cover.

The only thing that matters is the ending. It's the most important part of the story.
Offline
 Profile  
 
 
 Post subject: Re: Attica Question #9 ~ Writing Style
PostPosted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 4:29 pm 
User avatar

Joined: Tue Jul 06, 2004 8:15 pm
Posts: 19739
Location: near Omaha
I know that Garry is going to read this, but I really am not trying to butter him up. :whistle: I have been know to really put my foot in it when I didn't like something.

I thought the writing style was excellent. The characters were well-defined, the various areas of the attic were clearly described, the action moved along quickly. All of this was accomplished without a bunch of boring description or long explanations. He achieved these things by telling the story -- the sense of terror when the voodoo dolls were coming, the feeling of calm when petting Nelson......a bit about Chloe's character when she was charming Mr. Grantham in the garden. When straightforward descriptive passages were required, they were brief and they were vivid. I thought the book was skillfully written for any age. :bouquet:


Online
 Profile  
 
 
 Post subject: Re: Attica Question #9 ~ Writing Style
PostPosted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 4:50 pm 
User avatar

Joined: Thu Aug 14, 2008 9:09 pm
Posts: 752
Location: Kentucky
I agree with all you said nebraska. I found the writing style flowing and kept the story moving. We learn background on all the characters without too much indepth information. Jordy, Chloe and Alex each had their own story and Garry blended it in smooothly without losing the pace of the story. The attic descriptions were great - scarey, suspensful and kind. I call a book like this a "real page turner". Couldn't hardly wait for the next adventure.
Maybe we are "buttering" you up Garry - but we really liked your book! :ok:


Offline
 Profile  
 
 
 Post subject: Re: Attica Question #9 ~ Writing Style
PostPosted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 6:21 pm 
User avatar

Joined: Sat Apr 16, 2005 2:14 pm
Posts: 687
Location: Austin, TX
I really liked Garry's writing style, too, for all the reasons you have already stated. And I also never felt as if I was reading something that had been "dumbed down" for younger readers. I really respect that in an author, because young readers are very smart and don't need to be talked down to or held by the hand. So it's a thumbs up from me. I really enjoyed the book.



_________________________________________________________
Live! Life is a banquet and most poor suckers are starving to death! ~Auntie Mame
Offline
 Profile  
 
 
 Post subject: Re: Attica Question #9 ~ Writing Style
PostPosted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 6:40 pm 
JDZ Moderator
User avatar

Joined: Thu Jun 24, 2004 2:13 pm
Posts: 12408
Location: The Left Coast
I agree with nebraska, that it is a book that was written in a style/level that would appeal to all ages. As Bix so eloquently pointed out, it was not dumbed down. After all, look how many tidbits we got out of it. On the other hand, it was written in an easy flowing style, like nebraska and ladylinn said, that would keep the interest of younger readers. And the use of certain plot devices kept us interested in reading further (i.e. Jordy’s temporary disappearance).

I want to share that when I was trying to locate the book and trying to figure out when more books might be available, I called the buyer at my local indie bookstore. When I told her the name of the book, her response was “I loved that book!” This was from a woman, at least in her 30s, I’m sure, who lives and breathes books day in and day out. She obviously didn’t think it to be too young for her.



_________________________________________________________
You can't judge a book by its cover.

The only thing that matters is the ending. It's the most important part of the story.
Offline
 Profile  
 
 
 Post subject: Re: Attica Question #9 ~ Writing Style
PostPosted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 8:42 pm 
JDZ Web Designer
User avatar

Joined: Sun May 01, 2005 1:21 am
Posts: 20205
Location: Houston, Texas
I really enjoyed Garry's writing style....and the story, too. I noticed that he would change the tense depending on whose story he was telling. The children's adventures were always written in past tense...they explored, they walked, they did; but every time we moved over to the story of the board-comber and his bat, and Amanda with her owl, the story shifted to present tense...for example, on p.324: Safe inside the forest, she turns and looks at him standing there, until finally he enters the dark patch behind him. When the children are present and talking to the board-combers, the conversations and actions are written in past tense.

Interesting...I might think the story is written that way because time doesn't move in the attic, so all time is the present; but the boretrekker's time alone is written in the past tense.

Whatever the reason, I really think it works for the story. It pulls the reader into the conversation between the humans and their animal companions. Hey, maybe the reason the boretrekker and the Removal Firm's stories aren't past tense is because they don't talk to their animals. Just a guess....


Online
 Profile  
 
 
 Post subject: Re: Attica Question #9 ~ Writing Style
PostPosted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 9:05 pm 
User avatar

Joined: Tue Jul 06, 2004 8:15 pm
Posts: 19739
Location: near Omaha
Theresa wrote:
I really enjoyed Garry's writing style....and the story, too. I noticed that he would change the tense depending on whose story he was telling. The children's adventures were always written in past tense...they explored, they walked, they did; but every time we moved over to the story of the board-comber and his bat, and Amanda with her owl, the story shifted to present tense...for example, on p.324: Safe inside the forest, she turns and looks at him standing there, until finally he enters the dark patch behind him. When the children are present and talking to the board-combers, the conversations and actions are written in past tense.

Interesting...I might think the story is written that way because time doesn't move in the attic, so all time is the present; but the boretrekker's time alone is written in the past tense.

Whatever the reason, I really think it works for the story. It pulls the reader into the conversation between the humans and their animal companions. Hey, maybe the reason the boretrekker and the Removal Firm's stories aren't past tense is because they don't talk to their animals. Just a guess....


Theresa, that is an amazing observation. :applause2: But now that you mention it, there was a different feeling to the parts where the attic residents were involved -- almost a sense of immediacy or urgency. I didn't quite "get" what was going on at the time, but I did notice there was a difference.


Online
 Profile  
 
 
 Post subject: Re: Attica Question #9 ~ Writing Style
PostPosted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 9:11 pm 
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jun 21, 2004 10:43 pm
Posts: 10376
Location: Austin
theresa, that is a very interesting observation that I had not noticed either. Hmm... Garry?



_________________________________________________________
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming -
Wow! What a ride!
Offline
 Profile  
 
 
 Post subject: Re: Attica Question #9 ~ Writing Style
PostPosted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 11:03 pm 
User avatar

Joined: Sun Aug 24, 2008 10:48 am
Posts: 1048
Location: in the shade
Theresa, your answer is really great. Maybe the moments with the children were in the past because time did move for them. In their mind, time remains of the essence. Their days aren't void of time yet. But all of this could be reaching on my part. The kids are completing their actions and for Atticans, they're sort of just running in place. Nice discussion ladies.



_________________________________________________________
I'm not a brand, I'm more of a variety. - Johnny Depp
Offline
 Profile  
 
 
 Post subject: Re: Attica Question #9 ~ Writing Style
PostPosted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 12:29 am 
User avatar

Joined: Sat Jul 15, 2006 9:28 pm
Posts: 3907
Location: Florida
I am late and see that the subject is pretty well covered. I agree with everyone that it was written well and being an adult I enjoyed it as much as a child might. To be honest I didn't notice the tense changed from character to character but I like the fact that it seems to apply to the time boundaries of the story.
I didn't notice that the bortrekker didn't talk to his rats either. I know he named them Arthur and Harold and they rode in his pockets. There is a line where Jordy says the rats seem to not be used to the bortrekker talking to another human. It made me think either he didn't talk at all or maybe they thought he only talked to them. Maybe he only played music for them.



_________________________________________________________
"If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die I want to go where they went." Will Rogers

Growing old is mandatory, growing up is optional.
Offline
 Profile WWW  
 
 
 Post subject: Re: Attica Question #9 ~ Writing Style
PostPosted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 1:24 am 
User avatar

Joined: Fri Aug 26, 2005 12:27 pm
Posts: 548
Location: Kensington, CA
Because of the nature of this discussion I guess I should add my "two cents" here. Most aspects of Garry's writing,which have been described here also appeal to me . I share all favorable commentary. Theresa's comments surprised me, as I too had not noticed the tense changes and certainly wonder why they were used. The mystery of the author's inspiration and purpose. I got caught up in the word "style" in thinking about the writing. O.K., Garry has a background in science fiction writing, so that is a particular "style" of writing? A style greatly borrowing from the imagined, unknown, fantasy and explorative thinking? Sort of projective thinking? Sorry, but, I do get carried away!! Minds do operate in different channels. So, some of that writing background is evident in Attica. Almost linear. But the intriguing part of his writing is the combination of "science" along with an ability for fireside story telling. I think both talents were evident in this story. It made the experience of Attica very special.


Offline
 Profile  
 
 
 Post subject: Re: Attica Question #9 ~ Writing Style
PostPosted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 10:26 am 
JDZ Moderator
User avatar

Joined: Thu Jun 24, 2004 2:13 pm
Posts: 12408
Location: The Left Coast
Deppaura, I got a little caught up in “what is style?” when I was working on my answer yesterday. I think it can mean a lot of things. And I think we’ve covered quite a bit of territory in that regard. Your point about his combining science with “fireside storytelling” is quite astute. I view his writing as being much more than sci-fi or fantasy.

Theresa, that’s a very interesting theory about the tenses and time. I had not noticed the changes myself. I really hope that Garry will weigh in on this one.



_________________________________________________________
You can't judge a book by its cover.

The only thing that matters is the ending. It's the most important part of the story.
Offline
 Profile  
 
 
 Post subject: Re: Attica Question #9 ~ Writing Style
PostPosted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 12:04 pm 

Joined: Sun Sep 06, 2009 2:49 am
Posts: 11
Theresa, you got it in one. Obviously you have a good analytical mind!


Offline
 Profile  
 
 
 Post subject: Re: Attica Question #9 ~ Writing Style
PostPosted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 6:16 pm 
User avatar

Joined: Sat Jul 15, 2006 9:28 pm
Posts: 3907
Location: Florida
Theresa wrote:
I really enjoyed Garry's writing style....and the story, too. I noticed that he would change the tense depending on whose story he was telling. The children's adventures were always written in past tense...they explored, they walked, they did; but every time we moved over to the story of the board-comber and his bat, and Amanda with her owl, the story shifted to present tense...for example, on p.324: Safe inside the forest, she turns and looks at him standing there, until finally he enters the dark patch behind him. When the children are present and talking to the board-combers, the conversations and actions are written in past tense.

Interesting...I might think the story is written that way because time doesn't move in the attic, so all time is the present; but the boretrekker's time alone is written in the past tense.

Whatever the reason, I really think it works for the story. It pulls the reader into the conversation between the humans and their animal companions. Hey, maybe the reason the boretrekker and the Removal Firm's stories aren't past tense is because they don't talk to their animals. Just a guess....

Quote:
Garry said " Theresa, you got it in one. Obviously you have a good analytical mind!"


I do agree that Theresa was certianly attentive and on her toes. I certainly don't have an analytical mind but I do have a curious one. Now I am trying to figure out why the bortrekker is differnet from the other atticans. Am I the only one in the dark here?



_________________________________________________________
"If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die I want to go where they went." Will Rogers

Growing old is mandatory, growing up is optional.
Offline
 Profile WWW  
 
 
 Post subject: Re: Attica Question #9 ~ Writing Style
PostPosted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 6:52 pm 
JDZ Moderator
User avatar

Joined: Thu Jun 24, 2004 2:13 pm
Posts: 12408
Location: The Left Coast
gemini wrote:
Theresa wrote:
I really enjoyed Garry's writing style....and the story, too. I noticed that he would change the tense depending on whose story he was telling. The children's adventures were always written in past tense...they explored, they walked, they did; but every time we moved over to the story of the board-comber and his bat, and Amanda with her owl, the story shifted to present tense...for example, on p.324: Safe inside the forest, she turns and looks at him standing there, until finally he enters the dark patch behind him. When the children are present and talking to the board-combers, the conversations and actions are written in past tense.

Interesting...I might think the story is written that way because time doesn't move in the attic, so all time is the present; but the boretrekker's time alone is written in the past tense.

Whatever the reason, I really think it works for the story. It pulls the reader into the conversation between the humans and their animal companions. Hey, maybe the reason the boretrekker and the Removal Firm's stories aren't past tense is because they don't talk to their animals. Just a guess....

Quote:
Garry said " Theresa, you got it in one. Obviously you have a good analytical mind!"


I do agree that Theresa was certianly attentive and on her toes. I certainly don't have an analytical mind but I do have a curious one. Now I am trying to figure out why the bortrekker is differnet from the other atticans. Am I the only one in the dark here?

Gemini, you are not alone in the dark. I'll have to think on this a bit.



_________________________________________________________
You can't judge a book by its cover.

The only thing that matters is the ending. It's the most important part of the story.
Offline
 Profile  
 
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
 Page 1 of 2 [ 17 posts ]  Go to page
1, 2  Next

All times are UTC - 5 hours [ DST ]


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 0 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  


phpBB skin developed by: John Olson
Powered by phpBB © 2000, 2002, 2005, 2007 phpBB Group