winona wrote:shadowydog wrote:Interesting discussion. To me separation of church and state hinges on the thesis that no religion has a right to impose their church teachings on the entire country as an absolute law of the land. I see this happening time and again. Not all hold the same religious beliefs and all have the freedom to practice their religion under our constitution. And they can impose their rules and beliefs on THEIR members, but not on all the rest of us who do not hold these same beliefs. If that makes sense.
I studied American history and much of our early immigration was driven by religious groups trying to escape persecution by other religious groups. This is what was behind the constitutional clause on freedom of religion.
An example I can relate to was the mandatory prayer in public schools. I felt horror when I had to stand and lead the class in the Protestant version of the Lord's Prayer which I was taught by my church was heresy and I can really remember the anguish of a Jew who was required to stand and lead the class in that prayer.
To this day, I will never understand how my Catholic mother, had a heathen for a husband, I grew up with separation of church and state.. Dads family was here first No parent would commit to my Brother and myself, as to what we should believe in, I gave it all a shot, all of it! Dad just had a"gift"
?? A gift? I don't understand. But your parents sound like mine. My mom was a "relaxed" Catholic and my dad was an agnostic. He was pretty good about not trying to turn me against the church. I think he knew better. I found my own way. And my spirituality is still evolving. But I don't want anybody to tell me what I should or shouldn't believe. I want the freedom to believe whatever I want. And I feel rather fortunate that I have friends from various faiths (plus some atheists), and we are all respectful towards each other.