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Liz
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Post subject: Summer Reading with ONBC Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 1:25 pm |
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Joined: Thu Jun 24, 2004 2:13 pm Posts: 12112 Location: The Left Coast
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Noodlemantras……
Here’s an invitation of sorts, a trip out of town to the unexpected, where things will go from bad to absolutely horrific. Your destination is Moscow. You’ll arrive just in time for the fun to unroll under the command of a most extraordinary professor and his traveling companions. We promise, you have never met such a gang. There will be “decapitations, arson, black magic, abductions, counterfeiting of currency and self-satisfied people who are literally put in the nude.” You’ll laugh yourself silly. But that’s not all. There are other things at foot…….a story within a story that will likely leave you sleepless with wonder, and, of course, a love story. What would it be without love, no?
Our next book selection is The Master and Margarita by Mikhail Bulgakov (translated by Diana Burgin and Katherine Tiernan O’Conner).
“One of the greatest novels ever to come out of the Soviet Union. A parable on power and its corruption, on good and evil and on human frailty and the strength of love. Equal parts fable, fantasy, political satire and slapstick.” ~ Goodreads

Oh, and just in case you were wondering, in “My Essentials” in Entertainment Weekly, December 11, 2009, Johnny lists The Master and Margarita as one of his essential books: “This dark, absurd, and subversive treasure lay hidden for many years, even after Bulgakov’s death, such was the fear of reprisal for such a pointed, authentic stab at life under the tyrannical malevolence of Uncle Joe and the withering Soviet climate of the time.”
But one thing……as this sign put up in Moscow on June 20, 2012 says,“Do not talk with strangers!”

There are a number of translations out there, but we had to choose one, which is the Burgin and O’Conner version.
Tidbits begin August 6. Happy reading 
_________________________________________________________ You can't judge a book by its cover.
The only thing that matters is the ending. It's the most important part of the story.
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DeppInTheHeartOfTexas
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Post subject: Re: Summer Reading with ONBC Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 2:47 pm |
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Sounds most intriguing!!
Just to let you Noodlemantras know, I will have a pinch hitter for this one. Real life dictates that I sit out The Master and Margarita. Liz and I have asked fireflydances to sit in my chair for this discussion and she has agreed to help us out. I know it is going to be an interesting one!! Enjoy!!!!!
_________________________________________________________ Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming -
Wow! What a ride!
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fireflydances
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Post subject: Re: Summer Reading with ONBC Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 4:58 pm |
Joined: Tue Apr 28, 2009 9:15 pm Posts: 2003 Location: under a pile of books
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 Oh! The pleasure is totally mine!  I am most happy to be of service to this wonderful bookish place, and very excited to help out. DITHOT: I will try my best to stand briefly in your place. Hurry back!! 
_________________________________________________________ "Some books are to be tasted, others to be swallowed and some few to be chewed and digested." Sir Francis Bacon, Of Studies
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Buster
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Post subject: Re: Summer Reading with ONBC Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 9:00 pm |
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I am totally excited - something we can really sink our teeth into! And I'm also glad that firefly is joining our fearless leaders - welcome, friend!
My most recent translation is by Richard Pevear and Larissa Volokhonsky- I know I've read a different one, but that's the one I have now...Do you think I should keep my eyes peeled for the Burgin/O'Conner text, or can I just muddle through?
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Liz
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Post subject: Re: Summer Reading with ONBC Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 9:50 pm |
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Hi Buster.
I can't really comment on that as I have not read your translation. I do know that they can be different. I know someone who read a translation from the 70s that was not very good. But yours is fairly recent.
I'm sure the basic story will be the same, but I do think that you might be at a disadvantage for a couple of reasons:
1) The pages referred to will be all off. We will make a concerted effort, though, to also include chapter number, name, or both when we quote something.
2) Depending on the quote we use when asking a question, it could have a slightly different meaning. But I just don't know how this will go, having never discussed before (I don't think) a foreign book with different translations.
On the other hand, a different translation that you share with us could possibly enhance the discussion. Hard to say at this juncture.
So I will leave this decision up to you. And the same to any other Noodlemantras who have already read the book.
_________________________________________________________ You can't judge a book by its cover.
The only thing that matters is the ending. It's the most important part of the story.
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SnoopyDances
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Post subject: Re: Summer Reading with ONBC Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 11:52 pm |
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RamblinRebel
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Post subject: Re: Summer Reading with ONBC Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 2:48 am |
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Oooo !  I’ve been wanting to read this one since I first saw it on Johnny’s essentials list. It sounds like it will make for a most thought-provoking discussion. I do hope I’ll be able to fully participate in this one and not drop out half-way through the discussion, as is far too often my habit.  Right now my schedule it light, so fingers crossed, I’ll be with you in Aug/Sept! Firefly – wonderful of you to step in!! DITHOT - Hope it’s nothing serious, mate. We’ll miss you. 
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moviemom
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Post subject: Re: Summer Reading with ONBC Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 6:54 am |
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This book sounds very interesting and I hope I can participate in the discussion and not get too busy (school starts again in August!). 
_________________________________________________________ "Yes." - Tonto The year's no doubt, have changed me, sir. -- Sweeney Todd My flickr page
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nebraska
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Post subject: Re: Summer Reading with ONBC Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 7:59 am |
Joined: Tue Jul 06, 2004 8:15 pm Posts: 15995 Location: near Omaha
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For anyone questioning the versions of the book, I would suggest going to Amazon.com and reading some of the reviews from readers. There apparently is a big difference in some of the translations and people who know the Russian language speak in detail about those differences. My book is ordered. 
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Post subject: Re: Summer Reading with ONBC Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 2:50 pm |
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DeppInTheHeartOfTexas wrote:
Just to let you Noodlemantras know, I will have a pinch hitter for this one. Real life dictates that I sit out The Master and Margarita. Liz and I have asked fireflydances to sit in my chair for this discussion and she has agreed to help us out. I know it is going to be an interesting one!! Enjoy!!!!! Many thanks to fireflydances for agreeing to sub for DITHOT for this discussion. Leading an ONBC discussion is a lot of fun, but it is also undoubtedly a lot of work, and we are grateful to have such talented and dedicated book-lovers leading the way here.
Cheers to you!

Part-Time Poet
_________________________________________________________ Those who bring sunshine to the lives of others cannot keep it from themselves. -- J. M. Barrie
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winona
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Post subject: Re: Summer Reading with ONBC Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 7:35 pm |
Joined: Sat Oct 24, 2009 1:43 pm Posts: 1673 Location: Heart of the Rockies
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I thought I could just jump on it with my kindle fire, not available, oh well  I still like paper, free shipping with Prime 
_________________________________________________________ Because love has your face and body .....and your hands are tender and your mouth is sweet-and God has made no other eyes like yours. Walter Benton
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DeppInTheHeartOfTexas
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Post subject: Re: Summer Reading with ONBC Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2012 10:12 am |
Joined: Mon Jun 21, 2004 10:43 pm Posts: 10375 Location: Austin
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_________________________________________________________ Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming -
Wow! What a ride!
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