TBIMG Question #25 ~ Ironic

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TBIMG Question #25 ~ Ironic

Unread postby Liz » Thu Aug 02, 2007 10:51 am

Pg. 43. A prominent employee of the French Atomic Energy commission picked up Dr. Mahdi at the airport in Paris: “I understand you will be defining the experiments for the reactor,” he said. “I hope you will be successful.” As an Arab accustomed to the poetry of the unsaid, I am attentive to the subtleties of dialogue and hidden meanings behind a person’s words. I immediately picked up on the irony of his remark.

What do you think Dr. Mahdi finds ironic?
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Unread postby Betty Sue » Thu Aug 02, 2007 11:30 am

I think Dr. Mahdi knows that the prominent employee is skeptical of his reasons for working on the reactor and certainly does not really wish him success in bringing power to his tyrant boss.
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Unread postby Linda Lee » Thu Aug 02, 2007 12:25 pm

I agree with Betty Sue. I believe the employee suspected the real purpose of Dr. Obeidi's work and would not want him to succeed in bringing nuclear weapons to Iraq.
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Unread postby DeppInTheHeartOfTexas » Thu Aug 02, 2007 1:35 pm

You're saying what the Frenchman was really saying was "I hope you are not successful." I think I would get myself in trouble over there! :lol:
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Unread postby gemini » Thu Aug 02, 2007 1:38 pm

I agree with Betty Sue and Linda Lee that he suspected the real reason behind the research.
I was looking for more information on Dr. Mahdi and I ran across this great article from Mother Jones Magazine that had Dr Obeidi's story along with the not so good fate of the other Iraqi scientist. I think it is very interesting and goes right along with our book discussion. It is called in the garden of Armageddon.

http://www.motherjones.com/news/feature/2005/09/armageddon.html
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Unread postby suec » Thu Aug 02, 2007 3:33 pm

Yes I agree with others about his mistrust. I wonder also if the irony might refer to Dr Obeidi's own doubts. gemini, I shall print this article to have a proper read of it.
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Unread postby DeppInTheHeartOfTexas » Thu Aug 02, 2007 5:46 pm

gemini, that article was actually part of Tidbit #1. It's good to go back and read it now as we are towards the end of our discussion. Thanks for posting the link! :cool:

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Unread postby nebraska » Thu Aug 02, 2007 8:40 pm

DeppInTheHeartOfTexas wrote:[b]gemini, that article was actually part of Tidbit #1. It's good to go back and read it now as we are towards the end of our discussion. Thanks for posting the link! :cool:

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It was good to see it again (and thank you for letting me know I hadn't lost my mind completely :dunce: , although at times in this discussion I sure wondered about that!)

I agree that the Frenchman probably guessed Dr. O's intention. At one point weren't the French suspected of trying to produce the bomb themselves? My history/current events is rusty, but I wonder if there might have been a bitter tone, wishing the Iraqis success where the French had failed -- with a bit of "betcha can't do it!".

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Unread postby gemini » Thu Aug 02, 2007 8:57 pm

DeppInTheHeartOfTexas wrote:gemini, that article was actually part of Tidbit #1. It's good to go back and read it now as we are towards the end of our discussion. Thanks for posting the link! :cool:

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No wonder some of it sounded so familiar. I thought it was because it contained much of the information from Obeidi's book. I had forgotten about the tidbits....I have a short memory span. :blush:
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Unread postby DeppInTheHeartOfTexas » Thu Aug 02, 2007 9:24 pm

:lol: No worries, gemini! I suffer from the same malady on occasion...okay more than on occasion. :-? There is a lot of information to process with our discussions. :reader:
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Unread postby Liz » Thu Aug 02, 2007 9:49 pm

nebraska wrote:
DeppInTheHeartOfTexas wrote: I agree that the Frenchman probably guessed Dr. O's intention. At one point weren't the French suspected of trying to produce the bomb themselves? My history/current events is rusty, but I wonder if there might have been a bitter tone, wishing the Iraqis success where the French had failed -- with a bit of "betcha can't do it!".


I agree with you, Nebraska. I heard a bitter or sarcastic tone in the Frenchman's voice. I think the irony was that they had failed.
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