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Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 11:02 pm
by nebraska
DeppInTheHeartOfTexas wrote:Okay, so maybe I should have asked if there was a book/role that you couldn't relate to this one? :lol: No one has mentioned Edward, Spencer or Willy yet. :grin:

Ok, I'll bite........Edward Scissorhands started out as an idealistic innocent and then he was confronted with real life wickedness and he had to make adjustments to his beliefs in order to protect his loved one. :chill:

Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 6:31 am
by suec
I'll bite too. Willy: impact of parents. Dr Obeidi shows how he has been influenced by his parents and qualities he has gained from them. Willy also has been influenced by hs father too. In addition, pride in hs work. The only thing I can think of with Spencer is great instincts although that is stretching it a bit!

The other one I am reminded of a bit on further reflection is Martin Finch. This is because he is someone who has made it good, made a success of himself, shows his potential, and then is entrusted with a job, which then doesn't go quite according to plan and events backfire on him. There is also the theme of having to account for himself at regular intervals and coming in for some heat and criticism. Of course, he is distracted from his objective in a way that Dr Obeidi isn't.

And then there's Gilbert, with his sense of duty.

I've been trying to synthesize some of these and two half-remembered quotes are knocking around in my head. One is a discussion about the extent to which Johnny plays damaged people, and the other is a fan's comment that Johnny repeated: thanks for playing all those poor people. I think Dr Obeidi is another of those poor people; he finds himself in a nightmarish stituation but who does the best he can. Another recurring theme is the theme of the true story that nebraska picked up on.

Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 8:11 am
by DeppInTheHeartOfTexas
I knew you guys could do it! :cool:

suec, I think there is something to that. His characters do seem to have that quality.

How about Ed Wood? Anyone?

Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 9:21 am
by Linda Lee
Let's see, Ed Wood could do a film in a short period of time, as I recall, and Dr. Obeidi cut back the deadlines to very short times for the size of the project.

Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 1:30 pm
by Liz
Linda Lee wrote:Great comparisons, everyone. The only one I've come up with so far is Dean Corso confronts the devil, Dr. Obeidi confronts Saddam Hussein.


Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 2:40 pm
by suec
Whereas Ed Wood is an artist and Dr Obeidi a scientist, both show real pride in their work. "For a scientist, such a moment is a pinnacle of achievement. I imagine it is on a par with the rush a soccer player experiences after coring a winning goal, or what a mountain climber feels after scaling Mount Everest" (or a film director basking in the film at his premiere, and reflecting that this will be the film he'll be remembered for.) Both are successful at being quite secretive, too.

Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 6:04 pm
by DeppInTheHeartOfTexas
nebraska, Linda Lee and suec :cool: