TBIMG Question #19 ~ Availability of Information

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TBIMG Question #19 ~ Availability of Information

Unread postby DeppInTheHeartOfTexas » Fri Jul 27, 2007 9:54 am

Did the availability of information, materials, and expertise required to produce a nuclear weapon surprise you?
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Unread postby Linda Lee » Fri Jul 27, 2007 11:04 am

Absolutely, the way they were able to pick up critical information without any real security checks was amazing. I would have thought some of their inquiries would have at least caused some suspicion and raised more questions. And the sad thing is it is probably easier to get this information now than it was then.
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Unread postby Liz » Fri Jul 27, 2007 11:26 am

Linda Lee wrote:Absolutely, the way they were able to pick up critical information without any real security checks was amazing. I would have thought some of their inquiries would have at least caused some suspicion and raised more questions. And the sad thing is it is probably easier to get this information now than it was then.


I would hope not. :freaked: I was pretty amazed at how easily Dr. O could get information out of people. But it was a different world back then. We weren't quite so suspicious.
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Unread postby DeppInTheHeartOfTexas » Fri Jul 27, 2007 11:38 am

There were/are watchdogs looking for activity along those lines and it's scary they didn't catch on sooner. However those looking for the info and equipment knew how to at least try and cover their real purpose. And...let's face it...money talks to greed. :-/
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Unread postby gemini » Fri Jul 27, 2007 11:55 am

Did the availability of information, materials, and expertise required to produce a nuclear weapon surprise you?

This part of the book didn't seem to surprise me. At the time, most officials were most likely under the impression that only people working and educated in the field were making these kinds of purchases and they were so expensive and high tech that no one else would be attempting it. Actually it was his education and familiarity with our language that enable him to acquire from us. As for his acquiring from other countries it seemed only the right amount of money was required.


I do agree with your last line Linda Lee
And the sad thing is it is probably easier to get this information now than it was then.

Has anyone seen the film The Manhatten Project 1986 with John Lithgow? It was a pretty good film about a high school student that builds an atomic bomb for his high school science project. These days there are many more highly educated people in this field and very bright youngsters that want to see if they can accomplish something extraordinary. With the Internet, a lot of high tech information is available for those who have the persistence to hunt it down. There are so many countries that have nuclear technology besides us that it is not something we can control anymore.
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Unread postby Linda Lee » Fri Jul 27, 2007 12:06 pm

gemini wrote:
Has anyone seen the film The Manhatten Project 1986 with John Lithgow? It was a pretty good film about a high school student that builds an atomic bomb for his high school science project. These days there are many more highly educated people in this field and very bright youngsters that want to see if they can accomplish something extraordinary. With the Internet, a lot of high tech information is available for those who have the persistence to hunt it down. There are so many countries that have nuclear technology besides us that it is not something we can control anymore.


I agree it has been out of our control for quite some time. I haven't seen the film but had heard about it. It is unbelievable what is available on the internet to those with the time and a little knowledge. Today, I would not be as surprised by the abilty to gain access to the information, I was more surprised in the timeframe of the book.
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Unread postby ThirdArm » Fri Jul 27, 2007 1:09 pm

The short answer: absolutely.

It was like you could just walk up and get the stuff, so to speak. And, as Linda Lee said, it was more surprising in terms of the time frame of the book. Now, nearly everything is available on the Internet. :fear:
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Unread postby Raven » Fri Jul 27, 2007 1:24 pm

I will agree with all of the above. A less educated man would have had a tougher time of acquiring the needed information and components.

Lets face the facts, you do not need a nuclear bomb to scare people anymore. :baby:
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Unread postby Liz » Fri Jul 27, 2007 2:15 pm

Raven wrote:I will agree with all of the above. A less educated man would have had a tougher time of acquiring the needed information and components.

Lets face the facts, you do not need a nuclear bomb to scare people anymore. :baby:


Sad but true. :-/
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Unread postby Betty Sue » Fri Jul 27, 2007 2:23 pm

It surprised me and scared me, and I really have to commend Dr. Obeidi on how brilliantly, diligently and quickly he accomplished his goals. Of course, it wasn't good enough for Saddam..... :-/ Too bad all that brilliance wasn't put forth on something worthwhile. :banghead:
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Unread postby suec » Sun Jul 29, 2007 5:28 am

Yes, I was surprised. Especially by the information that is out there in the public domain, because some of the technology has so many relevant commercial applications, so businesses were of use to him. And also that he could visit a library to get information, although he drew back from that because of his worry about a paper trail. But he was still able to access the information by contacting an old friend. That was very strange to me.
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Unread postby Liz » Sun Jul 29, 2007 9:59 am

Suec, I was also surprised that he was able to get that much information out of a library.
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