Good Omens Question #23 - The End

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Good Omens Question #23 - The End

Unread postby Liz » Tue Aug 29, 2006 10:52 am

What is your take on these last few words?

“IF YOU WANT TO IMAGINE the future, imagine a boy and his dog and his friends. And a summer that never ends.
And if you want to imagine the future, imagine a boot….no, imagine a sneaker, laces trailing, kicking a pebble; imagine a stick, to poke at interesting things, and throw for a dog that may or may not decide to retrieve it; imagine a tuneless whistle, pounding some luckless popular song into insensibility; imagine a figure, half angel, half devil, all human….
Slouching hopefully towards Tadfield…..
…..forever.”


NOTE: Look for the final question tomorrow.
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Unread postby Betty Sue » Tue Aug 29, 2006 11:34 am

My take on those last words were that they completely warmed my heart and renewed my faith in the possibility of a wholesome mankind. They brought back some of the best days of my life (a summer that never ends) and certainly described my boys, now grown, and what I would always wish for them. Come to think of it, they still fit that description pretty well, thank God! :angel: :captainjack:
So the Ineffable Plan goes on. Humans will be humans. But I still got a sense that that was okay. :cloud9:
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Unread postby Liz » Tue Aug 29, 2006 12:25 pm

Well said, Betty Sue! :thumbsup:

The description of the boy and his dog brings to mind for me a future with no worries. Wouldn't it be nice?
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Unread postby DeppInTheHeartOfTexas » Tue Aug 29, 2006 1:58 pm

A future with no worries and endless possbilities...
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming -
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Unread postby Bix » Tue Aug 29, 2006 2:00 pm

Very nicely put, Betty Sue. I really liked these last few lines because, once again, a very few words call forth such an emotion-packed, sensuous picture for me. I can just feel the heat and smell the dust and hear the tuneless whistle and the slapping of the shoelaces and maybe the command to the dog to fetch. . .

As you both said, it somehow warms the heart and gives one hope. I especially liked the "half angel, half devil, all human" bit and think maybe that is the authors' way of emphasizing a lesson they have been teaching us throughout the book.
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Unread postby Liz » Tue Aug 29, 2006 2:05 pm

Bix wrote: As you both said, it somehow warms the heart and gives one hope. I especially liked the "half angel, half devil, all human" bit and think maybe that is the authors' way of emphasizing a lesson they have been teaching us throughout the book.


I guess they have been trying to send that message home, haven't they?
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Unread postby Gypsylee » Tue Aug 29, 2006 2:31 pm

Reading those last lines brought me back in time to my own childhood. I could feel how I felt then. Endless possiblities and innocence.
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Unread postby Endora » Tue Aug 29, 2006 2:43 pm

It's quite rare that we read a book that is so positive at the end, isn't it. But maybe too positive. Wasn't the whole point of the Tadfield place that it was contrived, not what humans would really end up making a place like?

Endless possibilites are fine, but as humanity messed it up in the first place, (ok, with a little demonic/angelic help) it seems too hopeful. To me at least.
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Unread postby Veronica » Tue Aug 29, 2006 7:54 pm

Heres my take on this

“IF YOU WANT TO IMAGINE the future, imagine a boy and his dog and his friends. And a summer that never ends. meaning spending time with loved ones and not worrying over time

And if you want to imagine the future, imagine a boot….no, imagine a sneaker, laces trailing, Meaning freedom

kicking a pebble; Meaning face what ever gets in your way

imagine a stick, to poke at interesting things, meaning trying new things

and throw for a dog that may or may not decide to retrieve it; Meaning you dont have to take what is thrown at you

imagine a tuneless whistle, pounding some luckless popular song into insensibility; meaning everything you hear may not make sense or be right

imagine a figure, half angel, half devil, all human….
Slouching hopefully towards Tadfield…..
…..forever.” meaning we are all the same, equal, no one is better than the other.
Everything is always okay in the end,
if it's not, then it's not the end.

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Unread postby Betty Sue » Tue Aug 29, 2006 8:21 pm

Very well thought out and explained, Veronica!! :writer::applause2:
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Unread postby Veronica » Tue Aug 29, 2006 8:44 pm

thanks :grin:
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Unread postby DeppInTheHeartOfTexas » Tue Aug 29, 2006 8:55 pm

I'll second that, Betty Sue! :cool: :cool: Very nicely put, V!
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming -

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Unread postby Liz » Tue Aug 29, 2006 9:45 pm

Betty Sue wrote:Very well thought out and explained, Veronica!! :writer::applause2:


Ditto. I'm impressed. I especially like this one:

Veronica wrote: kicking a pebble; Meaning face what ever gets in your way
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Unread postby fansmom » Wed Aug 30, 2006 12:56 pm

Good job, V!

My only comment is that the "slouching hopefully towards Tadfield" has to refer to this--

The Second Coming (1919)
W.B Yeats

Turning and turning in the widening gyre
The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.
Surely some revelation is at hand;
Surely the Second Coming is at hand.
The Second Coming! Hardly are those words out
When a vast image out of Spritus Mundi
Troubles my sight: somewhere in the sands of the desert.

A shape with lion body and the head of a man,
A gaze blank and pitiless as the sun,
Is moving its slow thighs, while all about it
Reel shadows of the indignant desert birds.
The darkness drops again; but now I know
That twenty centuries of stony sleep
were vexed to nightmare by a rocking cradle,
And what rough beast, its hour come round at last,
Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?


Yeats wrote this poem shortly after the First World War, and probably wasn't feeling too optimistic about the future of mankind. I think that the final word of Good Omens--"forever"--is a lot more hopeful. Keep slouching, and don't ever get here.

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Unread postby Liz » Wed Aug 30, 2006 3:50 pm

:-O Wow! That is quite a find, Fansmom. :cool:
You can't judge a book by its cover.

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