The Ginger Man Question #20 - Comparisons with Other Authors

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Unread postby DeppInTheHeartOfTexas » Sun Apr 23, 2006 9:49 pm

Another good comparison, db. I agree with you - I was disappointed that Sebastian never seemed to be able to learn anything from his lot in life at the time, nor did he seem to be attempting to try.
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Unread postby fansmom » Sun Apr 23, 2006 10:03 pm

dharma_bum wrote:What I found most disappointing about GM, wasn’t that SD didn’t change, but that he had so few moments of true self-awareness.
My daughter was reading James Joyce's Portrait of the Artist as I was reading TGM. She complained of the many epiphanies of Stephen Daedelus and I told her I wished TGM's SD would have even one! :lol:

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Unread postby Liz » Mon Apr 24, 2006 11:45 am

fansmom wrote:
dharma_bum wrote:What I found most disappointing about GM, wasn’t that SD didn’t change, but that he had so few moments of true self-awareness.
My daughter was reading James Joyce's Portrait of the Artist as I was reading TGM. She complained of the many epiphanies of Stephen Daedelus and I told her I wished TGM's SD would have even one! :lol:


I think that would have made all the difference in the world for me. Just one epiphany and I might have ended up liking him.
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Unread postby SamIam » Mon Apr 24, 2006 2:40 pm

I read the Cather in The Rye in high school. It's a great book. I think everyone can identify with what Holden goes through much better than in GM. His situation is a typical one. It's not easy going through high school and adolescence at the same time, but we can't identify with a jerk like Sebastien. The authors just have a different idea of what people can relate to.
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Unread postby DeppInTheHeartOfTexas » Mon Apr 24, 2006 6:30 pm

SamIam wrote:I read the Cather in The Rye in high school. It's a great book. I think everyone can identify with what Holden goes through much better than in GM. His situation is a typical one. It's not easy going through high school and adolescence at the same time, but we can't identify with a jerk like Sebastien. The authors just have a different idea of what people can relate to.


I think it depends on where you are in your life and the times you live in too. A lot of guys probably related to The Ginger Man back in the 50's, but then it has been a best seller for a long time. :eyebrow:
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Unread postby SamIam » Mon Apr 24, 2006 9:50 pm

DeppInTheHeartOfTexas wrote:
SamIam wrote:I read the Cather in The Rye in high school. It's a great book. I think everyone can identify with what Holden goes through much better than in GM. His situation is a typical one. It's not easy going through high school and adolescence at the same time, but we can't identify with a jerk like Sebastien. The authors just have a different idea of what people can relate to.


I think it depends on where you are in your life and the times you live in too. A lot of guys probably related to The Ginger Man back in the 50's, but then it has been a best seller for a long time. :eyebrow:


Very true. I agree with you on that DITHOT.
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