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Post subject: Desiderata ~ Stanza 8  Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 10:06 pm |
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This is the last stanza. Please feel free to comment tonight or anytime this week......:chill:
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You can't judge a book by its cover.
The only thing that matters is the ending. It's the most important part of the story.
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 10:25 pm |
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Jack's 'life' has progressed through a series of events, equivalent to chapters in his book of life. He certainly wasn't unhappy or moaning about his bad luck at the end of AWE. He had a plan. He had his goal: The Black Pearl is his destiny and his meaning in life. All of Jack's mental gymnastics link together to pursue his hopes and dreams and way of life aboard The Pearl.
(And we have no fear of that journey ending. Even if there are never any more movies, we'll have books and stories forever. I love fan writers!)
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gemini
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 10:33 pm |
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OK I am going to start at the end and work backwords.
I was thinking of desiderata after my first viewing of the film and the line that Teague says to Jack; " its not living forever but living with yourself" that reminded me most of this poem. The entire poem is how you live your life and this was a father telling this to his son. This one just came to me the minute I heard it. Now I am off to fit other scenes into each line.
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"If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die I want to go where they went." Will Rogers
Growing old is mandatory, growing up is optional.
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Liz
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 10:39 pm |
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gemini wrote: OK I am going to start at the end and work backwords.
I was thinking of desiderata after my first viewing of the film and the line that Teague says to Jack; " its not living forever but living with yourself" that reminded me most of this poem. The entire poem is how you live your life and this was a father telling this to his son. This one just came to me the minute I heard it. Now I am off to fit other scenes into each line.
I never really thought about TTOYL or Desiderata in relation to this movie until a Zoner pointed out the references to them in the credits. But on my second viewing I was paying more attention. And the one line that stood out to me was that one by Teague.
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You can't judge a book by its cover.
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 10:56 pm |
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Liz wrote:
Quote: He had his boat, he had the sea, he had his rum (which the compass pointed to). What more did he need (or want)? I can see why this would remind you of Jack, he had what he needed. And He's off in search of another adventure. Quote: Strive to be happy
Jack always seemed to be trying to turn the situations to his advantage in a pursuit of something that would make him happy.
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Serenity is not freedom from the storm but peace within the storm. ~ Unknown
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Liz
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 11:05 pm |
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Linda Lee wrote: Jack always seemed to be trying to turn the situations to his advantage in a pursuit of something that would make him happy.
I can relate to that. Maybe that is why Jack's character appeals to me so much. 
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gemini
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 11:19 pm |
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Yes this little scene really reminds me of Jack in his dingy at the end of AWE. He has his boat ( raises his little flag) checks for his trusty compass, finds his best friend the bottle of rum and all he needs is a direction. He is in his element!
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"If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die I want to go where they went." Will Rogers
Growing old is mandatory, growing up is optional.
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 11:29 pm |
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This is like the pefect stanza for the end of AWE. Liz couldn't have said it any better, she took the words right out of my mouth. 
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"This is the day you almost caught Captain Jack Sparrow!" - CJS
"Fuhgetaboutit." - Donnie Brasco
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 11:51 pm |
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To me this sums up where Jack finds himself in the end for me as well… content to absolutely live in the moment and accept what life has given him with grace. He is free with the horizon stretched before him and the promise of a new adventure. What he really wants in life at that moment in time is not the Pearl or the girl… but a spot of rum.
Not all treasure is silver and gold, mate.
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"You can't broom out your head. You certainly can't broom out your heart. And there's a hot wire between them, and everything shows in the eyes."
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Liz
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Post subject: Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 11:55 pm |
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Well said, Db!
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You can't judge a book by its cover.
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gemini
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 12:05 am |
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Just one more thought to a perfect thread. This is Jack Sparrow but its also Johnny Depp.
Be cheerful, Strive to be Happy.
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"If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die I want to go where they went." Will Rogers
Growing old is mandatory, growing up is optional.
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Liz
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 12:08 am |
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gemini wrote: Just one more thought to a perfect thread. This is Jack Sparrow but its also Johnny Depp.
Be cheerful, Strive to be Happy.
Aye, that'll about do it!
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 8:30 am |
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Well said, everyone!
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Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming -
Wow! What a ride!
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) This is the last page in the story. But it just reminded me of Jack. 
