Mortdecai Discussion Question #1: Who Would You Pick?

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Mortdecai Discussion Question #1: Who Would You Pick?

Unread postby fireflydances » Mon Feb 23, 2015 8:42 pm

Welcome Noodlemantras to our discussion of The Great Mortdecai Moustache Mystery! :mortdecai1:

Our first question:

James Bond versus Charlie Mortdecai. Two suave adventurers with a taste for women, liquor and fine things. Who would you want to discover standing in front of you when you open your front door, and why?
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Re: Mortdecai Discussion Question #1: Who Would You Pick?

Unread postby Theresa » Mon Feb 23, 2015 9:13 pm

Between the two, I think I'd have to pick Charlie. I'd much rather be with a man who could make me laugh.

However...if it was the Pierce Brosnan version of James Bond...the decision would be a lot more difficult. :biggrin:

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Re: Mortdecai Discussion Question #1: Who Would You Pick?

Unread postby stroch » Mon Feb 23, 2015 10:19 pm

Taking the question literally, it would have to be James Bond. If either are at the door, something must be afoot, and I have a lot more confidence in his ability to keep the bad guys in check without harm to my person or property. Besides, 007 has nifty gadgets and an Aston Martin.
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Re: Mortdecai Discussion Question #1: Who Would You Pick?

Unread postby Theresa » Mon Feb 23, 2015 10:25 pm

But Charlie has a really nice Rolls Royce...well, he HAD a Rolls Royce.

I guess it ended up in America...unless Charlie got it back after the new owner got whacked.

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Unread postby nebraska » Mon Feb 23, 2015 11:03 pm

I would prefer Charlie. I have never been a fan of James Bond, not that I have watched the movie or read the books. The movie previews look like he is ego centric in a condescending sort of way. Charlie at least seems to have a conscience and is relatively harmless.

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Re: Mortdecai Discussion Question #1: Who Would You Pick?

Unread postby fireflydances » Mon Feb 23, 2015 11:53 pm

Loving the answers! I think I am split, which surprises me. Charlie is absolutely adorable but James is wonderfully dark. At the same time Charlie, for all his shady ways, is the only one I would trust with my heart.
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Re: Mortdecai Discussion Question #1: Who Would You Pick?

Unread postby Liz » Tue Feb 24, 2015 1:36 am

This is not a simple question. ;) There are so many considerations.

It depends on if we're talking about the movies or the books. I think we're talking about the books......or the characters. But I think it is hard to ignore the movie personages. So I will start with that.

I would of course choose Charlie over James Bond if Johnny is in the equation. But we're not just talking looks here. We're talking the likability factor. Johnny's Charlie was much more endearing than any of the actors who played James. They may have been handsome (except for Roger Moore :yuck: ), but they weren't likable. They were cads.

So now let's look at the books. I never read any Ian Flemming, so it's hard to say. But I think that James would be more interesting to let in the door. I think I would be VERY curious about what he was there for and fascinated with his past and all of his gadgets (as Stroch mentioned). He's just a little more exciting than the book Charlie Mortdecai. Charlie was funny. But exciting intrigue wins.

Then there is the moustache issue. James Bond did not have a moustache. And Johanna and I are on the same page about this issue. :mortdecaiheart: not.
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Re: Mortdecai Discussion Question #1: Who Would You Pick?

Unread postby stroch » Tue Feb 24, 2015 8:09 am

^^Definitely divorced Johnny / Charlie, and James--James Bond, from any of the actors portraying him.

I fell in love with 007 in high school, and absolutely hated how the movies portrayed him, as a caricature rather than a character. Johnny's Mortdecai is charming; Bonfiglioni's, not so much.
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Re: Mortdecai Discussion Question #1: Who Would You Pick?

Unread postby fireflydances » Tue Feb 24, 2015 8:28 am

Oh man! I have to go to work! Love the conversation on this one. I am with Liz in terms of the Charlie/James connumdrum.

But book Charlie definitely has an edge missing to the movie Charlie. A dis-regard to consequences that I liked. I think James wouldn't give a pig's snout for consequences. Will come back later....
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Re: Mortdecai Discussion Question #1: Who Would You Pick?

Unread postby SnoopyDances » Tue Feb 24, 2015 9:34 am

Well if there was danger afoot, I'd prefer James Bond. :dillingergun:

If he was picking me up for a fun time, I'd prefer Charlie. :mortdecai1:

If it was Johnny vs. Sean Connery, I'd have to let both of them in. :flirt:

But if we are dissecting characters, I thought Mortdecai was much more condescending about people, places, and things than Bond. But I'm basing that on the movie versions.

Bond was always portrayed as unflappable, sophisticated, and suave. Whether it was a dangerous situation or a romantic one, nothing ever seemed to ruffle his feathers. And he could take on all the bad guys at the same time.

By contrast, Mortdecai was nothing but ruffled. It didn't matter the situation, you were never sure if he could handle it, thus the reliance on Jock. Jock to rescue, cook, clean, drive, "question" witnesses/suspects.

I looked at Mortdecai to be a spoof of all that was holy with Bond...pure mockery and it was fun.

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Re: Mortdecai Discussion Question #1: Who Would You Pick?

Unread postby shaman-art » Tue Feb 24, 2015 2:45 pm

James Bond always was too much of everything for me: too much save-the-world-heroics, too many cars, too much fighting - and waaayy too many girls.

Mortdecai might not be the the best choice if my life is in danger, but there'd still be Jock. And Mortdecai loves his lady. The :mortdecaiheart: is not exactly my favorite, but I could live with it.

I think I'd prefer a man who is funny and likes some good food and wine - not a superhero.

Even if I'd make this decision based on the movies/actors it would be the same. I liked Pierce Brosnan, Roger Moore and to a degree Sean Connery, but none of them trumps Johnny. And don't ask me about Daniel Craig :yuck: !!

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Re: Mortdecai Discussion Question #1: Who Would You Pick?

Unread postby marija » Tue Feb 24, 2015 7:43 pm

I have only ONE reason, why I would let in Mr. James Bond...I can understand his spoken words much better than Lord Charlie Mortdecai's. :harhar: :mortdecaiheart:
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Re: Mortdecai Discussion Question #1: Who Would You Pick?

Unread postby moviemom » Tue Feb 24, 2015 9:25 pm

Based on the film versions of these characters, I'd have to go with Charlie. I love a man that makes me laugh. :mortdecaiheart: I am a fan of the mustache. :mortdecai2:
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Re: Mortdecai Discussion Question #1: Who Would You Pick?

Unread postby Liz » Tue Feb 24, 2015 10:17 pm

marija wrote:I have only ONE reason, why I would let in Mr. James Bond...I can understand his spoken words much better than Lord Charlie Mortdecai's. :harhar: :mortdecaiheart:

:lol: :cool:
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Re: Mortdecai Discussion Question #1: Who Would You Pick?

Unread postby Liz » Tue Feb 24, 2015 10:26 pm

shaman-art wrote:And don't ask me about Daniel Craig :yuck: !!

I just have to comment on this. My former running partner was very smitten with Daniel Craig when his first Bond film was released in 2006 (Casino Royale, I believe). In her mind, he was the epitome of what Johnny was not. Daniel Craig was "rugged" and "confident" and "in control." In her mind, that was the opposite of Johnny and that is why she prefers a man like Daniel Craig to Johnny Depp. This opinion was made on the heels of her watching Johnny on The Actor's Studio.

I, on the other hand, am more attracted to less controlling, less confident men who have a softness to them.
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