DS Question #18 - Originality

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DS Question #18 - Originality

Unread postby DeppInTheHeartOfTexas » Wed Jul 04, 2012 10:52 am

Dark Shadows was an original and groundbreaking idea. Can you think of other shows that had a similar impact?
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Re: DS Question #18 - Originality

Unread postby Lou Lou 63 » Wed Jul 04, 2012 12:55 pm

DeppInTheHeartOfTexas wrote:Dark Shadows was an original and groundbreaking idea. Can you think of other shows that had a similar impact?


One recent one comes to mind "24" that was one really groundbreaking show, and one of my all time favourite shows :biggrin:

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Re: DS Question #18 - Originality

Unread postby Liz » Wed Jul 04, 2012 5:13 pm

Lou Lou 63 wrote:One recent one comes to mind "24" that was one really groundbreaking show, and one of my all time favourite shows :biggrin:

Oh yeah, because it was supposed to take place in real time. That was pretty cool.
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Re: DS Question #18 - Originality

Unread postby Lou Lou 63 » Wed Jul 04, 2012 5:42 pm

Liz wrote:
Lou Lou 63 wrote:One recent one comes to mind "24" that was one really groundbreaking show, and one of my all time favourite shows :biggrin:

Oh yeah, because it was supposed to take place in real time. That was pretty cool.


Although Johnny trumped that when he made " Nick Of Time" a few years earlier, that movie was set in "Real Time" too

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Re: DS Question #18 - Originality

Unread postby nebraska » Wed Jul 04, 2012 5:49 pm

As a huge fan of the X Files over the years, I would like to give it a mention. I think the subject matter of aliens, paranormal, government conspiracies, etc was not new, but I felt like the show presented those things with a different twist.

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Unread postby Liz » Wed Jul 04, 2012 6:09 pm

Nebraska, I thought of X-Files too, but I couldn't put my finger on how it was groundbreaking. I think it was just the original storylines. I loved that show!

Lou Lou, I forgot about Nick of Time. But I had not seen that until after I had seen "24" and I remember at the time thinking that it had trumped "24." I think a lot of people did not see the movie (like myself) and also when they made such a to do about it I think it was because it was the first time on TV.

I would also say that reality shows were groundbreaking.....Which was the first? I've never been a real big reality TV fan, so don't ask me.

I feel like LOST was groundbreaking, but I can't explain how. Need to think on that. Maybe because it seemed so real, but wasn't. ;)
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Unread postby nebraska » Wed Jul 04, 2012 6:46 pm

Liz wrote:Nebraska, I thought of X-Files too, but I couldn't put my finger on how it was groundbreaking. I think it was just the original storylines. I loved that show!

The original story lines and the characters -- Mulder and Scully , the Cigarette Smoking Man, the Lone Gunmen. I don't know, they all had a uniqueness about them and certainly the combination of the characters together.

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Unread postby Lou Lou 63 » Wed Jul 04, 2012 7:12 pm

nebraska wrote:
Liz wrote:Nebraska, I thought of X-Files too, but I couldn't put my finger on how it was groundbreaking. I think it was just the original storylines. I loved that show!

The original story lines and the characters -- Mulder and Scully , the Cigarette Smoking Man, the Lone Gunmen. I don't know, they all had a uniqueness about them and certainly the combination of the characters together.


I loved The X Files too :highfive:

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Re: DS Question #18 - Originality

Unread postby SnoopyDances » Wed Jul 04, 2012 10:22 pm

Being a TV junkie since childhood...I'll sink my teeth into this one:
(in no particular order, just as I thought of them)

1: Milton Berle (Father of television...first commercial success in the new medium)
2. Your Show of Shows (unique variety show, never has been another one like it, but paved the way for dozens of others)
3. I Love Lucy (considered the original sitcom and first to be recorded first on tape, not broadcast live)
4. Ed Sullivan (first variety show to feature original acts: comedy, musical, drama, Broadway, etc. )
5. Star Trek (first outer space drama)
6. All in the Family (breaking racial barriers, dealing with current issues)
7. M*A*S*H (first dramady, featuring reality of war)
8. Saturday Night Live ( first late night variety show: often imitated, never duplicated)
9. The Bill Cosby Show (1980s) (a family show featuring successful black family, commercially successful across all races)
10. The Simpsons (first and longest-running animated sitcom)
11. The Real World (first "reality" show and first gay-themed)
12. Seinfeld (sitcom about "nothing")
13. 24 (real time format)
14. Dallas (original)( first prime time soap)
15. CBS Evening News with Walter Cronkite (beginning of a network evening news show)
16. The Tonight Show with Johnny Carson (king of late night talk shows, others before and after, but none as successful)
17. Survivor (first commercial success reality tv)
18. Roots (first mini-series and first breaking racial barriers)
19. Jeopardy (Only game show to provide the answers and the contestants had to provide the questions) (I'll ignore the game show scandals, although only groundbreaking in scandal, they did pave the way for better control and fairness of future game shows)
20. Julia and Mary Tyler Moore Shows (Mary's is the most famous for advancing successful single women, but Julia was the first--and she was the first African-American female lead)
21. American Idol (paved way for other competitive reality-type shows, not the first to do this, but the most unique approach by using texting and Web.)

I'm sure there are others...but these were the first to come to mind.

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Unread postby nebraska » Thu Jul 05, 2012 9:01 am

Great list, Snoopy! Would have to agree with several of those -- Saturday Night Live and the Simpsons certainly were ground-breaking originals. And All In the Family.
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Unread postby DeppInTheHeartOfTexas » Thu Jul 05, 2012 12:41 pm

Well thought out list, Snoopy! I thought of one addition - Sesame Street.
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Unread postby Theresa » Thu Jul 05, 2012 12:56 pm

The Simpsons certainly wins hands-down in the animated longevity area, but it wasn't the first animated sitcom. That honor goes to The Flintstones which debuted in 1960!

I am very impressed with your list, Snoopy!
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Unread postby Liz » Thu Jul 05, 2012 1:35 pm

That's quite a list, Snoopy. :applause: And I would agree. Mary Tyler Moore and Saturday Night Live are especially good ones.
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Unread postby shadowydog » Thu Jul 05, 2012 1:45 pm

Jack Paar created the format Johnny Carson took over. And I think All in The Family was one of the most important break through innovations in TV and led to TV series featuring blacks.
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Unread postby Liz » Thu Jul 05, 2012 3:39 pm

shadowydog wrote:Jack Paar created the format Johnny Carson took over. And I think All in The Family was one of the most important break through innovations in TV and led to TV series featuring blacks.

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