Babylon Nights Question #2 ~ The Internet

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Babylon Nights Question #2 ~ The Internet

Unread postby Liz » Sat Jan 08, 2011 3:42 pm

Pg. 3:

The Internet was wonderful. You could find anything on the Internet, provided you looked hard enough.

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Re: Babylon Nights Question #2 ~ The Internet

Unread postby gemini » Sat Jan 08, 2011 4:40 pm

I may be a bit prejudiced as I am an Internet junky, but I do agree. If asked to give up the TV or the computer, my TV would be gone. The Internet has made so many forms of information obsolete, like dictionaries, encyclopedia, even sometimes going to the library. I do a lot of shopping online and if not purchased there I certainly use it to compare products. Look at us here on ONBC chatting across the pond to people we might never meet if we had to travel to do it.
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Re: Babylon Nights Question #2 ~ The Internet

Unread postby fansmom » Sat Jan 08, 2011 5:35 pm

A little over a year ago, my mother called me, desperate. My brother and his wife were on a road trip to my sister-in-law's father's house half the continent away and my mother hadn't heard from them for over a week. Her calls to his cell phone were going unanswered. She was convinced that they'd driven over a cliff and their bodies wouldn't be found until spring. Long story short, knowing only my sister-in-law's maiden name, her father's former occupation (but not his first name nor his wife's name nor their current occupations), and the state he lived in, I found them all within about half an hour through the miracle of the internet.

My brother is a computer professional and was impressed that he'd been so readily traceable.

There's a whole bunch of stuff on the internet that I wouldn't want to touch, :yikes: :yuck: but it can also be a phenomenal tool. I say that as someone who worked for almost 20 years in an industry that the internet killed.

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Re: Babylon Nights Question #2 ~ The Internet

Unread postby Betty Sue » Sat Jan 08, 2011 5:51 pm

Yep, I don't think a day goes by that I don't look something up....and find it! Actually, one would think I'd be pretty educated by now! :dunce: In this part of the country, it's also helpful to settle a nice warm laptop on your lap whenever possible in the winter!
And now I'm off to use the internet to order some flannel sheets as I just got back from the store where I foolishly thought I might find some.
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Re: Babylon Nights Question #2 ~ The Internet

Unread postby fireflydances » Sat Jan 08, 2011 5:55 pm

Yes, it's definitely a strange animal. I was always a information junkie, the type that could spend happy hours in any library, so the internet is like a treasure chest to me, something boundless, an encyclopedia as big as a country. I like the way you can follow threads, explore connections that you might never consider if you were looking within the pages of a book. I am also very intrigued by this social element where we are creating realities built on words. We know many people now by words alone. We'll never see a face, hear a voice, touch a hand and yet we talk and talk and talk. Sometimes the silence of the conversations bothers me you know?
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Re: Babylon Nights Question #2 ~ The Internet

Unread postby nebraska » Sat Jan 08, 2011 6:38 pm

Count me among the internet-addicted who would give up TV before giving up my computer! Of course, with the right software and connections, you can watch TV on line anyway. :grin: I am always looking up all sorts of things, never go anywhere new without searching for a map on line, and I shop on line quite a bit as well -- I can buy books/music/movies/gifts on line in a matter of minutes when it might take me hours to shop for the same things in stores (and still come up empty handed in many cases). Through Yahoo groups and the Zone I have met a lot of fabulous people virtually (quite a few of them in person later). I keep in contact with family and friends through email on a daily basis. And then there is Facebook which has made me closer to family because of the daily tidbits of life that would escape me otherwise. I have taken numerous college courses on line - with my schedule I could not have taken those courses when I was working. When I needed to replace the toilet seat in my bathroom, I watched YouTube videos to show me how to do it before I tackled the job. My friend whose daughter is on the other side of the world with her military husband can converse with her through Skype. I am always dumbfounded when they say the primary use of the internet is porn. :-O Really?

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Re: Babylon Nights Question #2 ~ The Internet

Unread postby Linda Lee » Sat Jan 08, 2011 6:54 pm

As someone who finds the internet both fascinating and frustrating, I must agree you can find almost anything on the internet given time and some skill. You must also be careful as there is a lot of misinformation on the internet as well. I use it as a major shopping tool as well.
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Re: Babylon Nights Question #2 ~ The Internet

Unread postby gemini » Sat Jan 08, 2011 8:21 pm

Linda Lee wrote:As someone who finds the internet both fascinating and frustrating, I must agree you can find almost anything on the internet given time and some skill. You must also be careful as there is a lot of misinformation on the internet as well. I use it as a major shopping tool as well.

I agree Linda Lee about the misinformation on the Internet. I was thinking of pointing that out as well but decided the positive aspect far outweighs the negative. It’s part of becoming computer savvy. Not only is there misinformation but virus’s that can damage your equipment. It a bit like the real world, you have to learn how to be safe and use your common sense because anyone can put information on the Internet and its not always trust worthy.

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I am always dumbfounded when they say the primary use of the internet is porn. Really?

I agree so many people who don’t use the computer bring this up to me when I praise the Internet. It is giving it a bad reputation. I admit it’s there for those who seek it but that also is like the real world and I don’t want books censured. Parents can use controls for kids but really it boils down to the same as protecting them when they go out the door, you have to give them the right values to get street smart.
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Re: Babylon Nights Question #2 ~ The Internet

Unread postby nebraska » Sat Jan 08, 2011 9:04 pm

gemini wrote:
Linda Lee wrote:As someone who finds the internet both fascinating and frustrating, I must agree you can find almost anything on the internet given time and some skill. You must also be careful as there is a lot of misinformation on the internet as well. I use it as a major shopping tool as well.

I agree Linda Lee about the misinformation on the Internet. I was thinking of pointing that out as well but decided the positive aspect far outweighs the negative. It’s part of becoming computer savvy. Not only is there misinformation but virus’s that can damage your equipment. It a bit like the real world, you have to learn how to be safe and use your common sense because anyone can put information on the Internet and its not always trust worthy.

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I am always dumbfounded when they say the primary use of the internet is porn. Really?

I agree so many people who don’t use the computer bring this up to me when I praise the Internet. It is giving it a bad reputation. I admit it’s there for those who seek it but that also is like the real world and I don’t want books censured. Parents can use controls for kids but really it boils down to the same as protecting them when they go out the door, you have to give them the right values to get street smart.


Well, it is just so crazy that this wonderful tool that opens the entire world of knowledge and friendship is used for something as stupid and pointless as porn. :dunce: I just can't quite wrap my poor little brain around that.

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Re: Babylon Nights Question #2 ~ The Internet

Unread postby fireflydances » Sat Jan 08, 2011 9:20 pm

Well if we go back to that quote from Babylon Nights
The Internet was wonderful. You could find anything on the Internet, provided you looked hard enough.
Am I the only person that this line just jumped off the page for? I mean, I remembered it like two months later. I am not sure why. It's such a direct remark, an aside almost. Anyone else pick that sensation up?
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Re: Babylon Nights Question #2 ~ The Internet

Unread postby ~SB » Sat Jan 08, 2011 9:49 pm

I frequently say the internet is a blessing and a curse. You have all of this information at your fingertips, but sometimes it's too much information. Daniel is right, though, if you look hard enough, it's amazing what you can discover.

I have to edit this to add, I teach high school, and I'm beginning to see the effects of this technology on my students. They don't remember anything. . .and why should they? Anything they want to know is a click away on the nearest computer which is often in their pockets or purses. Again, a blessing and a curse.
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Re: Babylon Nights Question #2 ~ The Internet

Unread postby DeppInTheHeartOfTexas » Sat Jan 08, 2011 10:05 pm

firefly, the line struck us too, hence why we included the question. Doing these tidbits would be impossible without the internet, as obviously would our website. I love working on a tidbit and finding that one little nugget of information that I had been searching for or finding some unexpected morsel to add...which ususlly sends me down another internet rabbit hole!

There is defiintely misinformation and misuse out there but that is true with any medium. ~sb, that is interesting about students, but I'm sure very true. They/We don't even need to be at a computer, they/we simply pull out a phone. The way the internet has shrunk our world, widened our horizons and brought us closer is amazing to me.
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Re: Babylon Nights Question #2 ~ The Internet

Unread postby fireflydances » Sat Jan 08, 2011 10:14 pm

So you noticed the comment too. It's on the bottom of the first page, first chapter, last two lines. How straightforward of him. Might be too early to bring this up but I do believe the man talks to his readers. Interesting habit that. I'll sit down and keep my mouth shut now until the next question.
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Re: Babylon Nights Question #2 ~ The Internet

Unread postby Buster » Sun Jan 09, 2011 12:17 am

While I use the internet frequently, I find I'm perfectly content when it is unavailable. Often I am annoyed by the extraneous ads and drivel that accompany searches, and it is not uncommon to end up in "misinformationville", as it were. It is great for certain kinds of research, but to me there is nothing quite like hands-on. A good library is a treat, and it allows the added satisfaction of handling books. Nothing on line will ever replace reading a book.
That said, I spent a good chunk of today looking up information on car repairs, and then looked up parts, so I could be sure the sensor from my '91 Volvo would fit in the '90 before I got too far into it (car repairs in the driveway when it is snowing need all the help available...)
Might be too early to bring this up but I do believe the man talks to his readers.
I hope we get to discuss this, firefly.

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Re: Babylon Nights Question #2 ~ The Internet

Unread postby Theresa » Sun Jan 09, 2011 12:59 am

I have to agree with this statement. There are very few things that can't be found. I find myself having 'net withdrawals if I can't get to a computer for a day or two.

I think back to the pre-IMDB days when we would try to think of an actor's name in an old movie...or who sang a certain song; we'd be calling everyone at work trying to find if anyone knew. A couple of times I even had to call one of the radio stations and ask the DJ. Now it's just a matter of going to IMDB or Google and boom! there's the answer.

I've even seen scans of the ship's passenger list from Ellis Island when my grandmother came to the US when she was five.

And being part of the Zone...finding friends all around the world, being part of a book club that I'd never have done in person...learning to code, set up a forum...I wouldn't trade it for anything. The internet is wonderful.


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