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 Post subject: Re: ATLA Question #7 ~ Algren and Other Authors
PostPosted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 6:49 pm 
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Any insights re: Algren and HST?
Did you see any influence on Daniel Depp?
And before you quit the "compare and contrast", what about James Meek and The People's Act of Love? Pretty intense vision there, as well.


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 Post subject: Re: ATLA Question #7 ~ Algren and Other Authors
PostPosted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 9:13 pm 
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Buster wrote:
Any insights re: Algren and HST?
Did you see any influence on Daniel Depp?
And before you quit the "compare and contrast", what about James Meek and The People's Act of Love? Pretty intense vision there, as well.


Good questions, Buster. Here's my thought or maybe I should say my :twocents:

Algren and HST: I haven't read enough of Algren to make a really decent comparison. They both had a journalistic bent (HST professionally and Algren in style) but it strikes me that HST was more "in your face" and subjective while Algren was more objective and less personal.

Daniel Depp: I see more of a HST or Kerouac influence.

James Meek is an interesting question. I think I would have to read more Algren to really comment.

I do see a similarity to John Fante and William Saroyan in that they were writing about their surroundings and using real people around them to paint a picture of the times.



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 Post subject: Re: ATLA Question #7 ~ Algren and Other Authors
PostPosted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 9:27 pm 
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using real people around them to paint a picture of the times.

I don't know enough about Algren to know whether he was actually in the situations he wrote about ( ex: the scene in The Captain Has Bad Dreams, Or Who Put the Sodium Amytal in the Hill & Hill (great title, by the way)), but Hunter really was on the scene when he was writing.
Algren certainly caught the essence of the event; however, I think you are right in surmising he was an observer than a participant.


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 Post subject: Re: ATLA Question #7 ~ Algren and Other Authors
PostPosted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 10:18 pm 
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DITHOT wrote: I do see a similarity to John Fante and William Saroyan in that they were writing about their surroundings and using real people around them to paint a picture of the times..

Algren, at least as a veneer, thought life was humorous; perhaps he took it lightly, but I don't think so; he saw it as funny, but real. Saroyan saw it as real, but funny. Not quite the same.


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 Post subject: Re: ATLA Question #7 ~ Algren and Other Authors
PostPosted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 10:55 pm 

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gemini wrote:
In 2005 Kerouac’s medical records were released from the Navy. I read several articles. Here is a link I just found on google that calls dementia praecox an archaic term for schizophrenia.

Thanks for the link, gemini. Very interesting!


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 Post subject: Re: ATLA Question #7 ~ Algren and Other Authors
PostPosted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 12:06 am 
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RamblinRebel wrote:
gemini wrote:
In 2005 Kerouac’s medical records were released from the Navy. I read several articles. Here is a link I just found on google that calls dementia praecox an archaic term for schizophrenia.

Thanks for the link, gemini. Very interesting!
Has anyone else ever seen "Suddenly, Last Summer," with Katherine Hepburn and Elizabeth Taylor? Whenever I read the term dementia praecox, I hear Hepburn drawling it.
"She suffers from something called dementia praecox."
"From dementia praecox?"
"Which is to say, she's mad as a hatter, poor child."

Mad as a what? :hatterspin:


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