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Re: Johnny Sues Business Managers, Accuses Fraud. Added: Johnny is Countersued

Unread postby RumLover » Sat Jun 24, 2017 7:24 pm

Lbock wrote:There is a new story going around on twitter now how Johnny lied about bringing the dogs in, he knew he was in the wrong. The docs state he lied and blamed it in an assistant that he thought they filed the papers.....ok that's not important.

But, I am now wondering if this is the item that TMG is referring to how he lied to authorities over a legal manner involving a family member. She was the one who brought the dogs in, I thought he was already in Australia, so he was trying to cover and protect her.

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Depp and Heard were both on the plane to Australia with the dogs. There are photos of them and staff arriving. The photo seems to imply that a staff member was carrying a bag that most likely contained the dogs.
I consider everyone on the plane complicit including plane crew.
I have thought about why only Heard was charged. Maybe the dogs papers show that she was the owner and so was responsible for falsely ticking the No box on the quarantine form about bringing animals or animal parts. Maybe she was the person that quarantine officers spoke to after the dogs presence was revealed and her attitude rubbed officers the wrong way.

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Unread postby brunasouzota » Sat Jun 24, 2017 7:46 pm

RumLover wrote:
Lbock wrote:There is a new story going around on twitter now how Johnny lied about bringing the dogs in, he knew he was in the wrong. The docs state he lied and blamed it in an assistant that he thought they filed the papers.....ok that's not important.

But, I am now wondering if this is the item that TMG is referring to how he lied to authorities over a legal manner involving a family member. She was the one who brought the dogs in, I thought he was already in Australia, so he was trying to cover and protect her.

My opinion

Depp and Heard were both on the plane to Australia with the dogs. There are photos of them and staff arriving. The photo seems to imply that a staff member was carrying a bag that most likely contained the dogs.
I consider everyone on the plane complicit including plane crew.
I have thought about why only Heard was charged. Maybe the dogs papers show that she was the owner and so was responsible for falsely ticking the No box on the quarantine form about bringing animals or animal parts. Maybe she was the person that quarantine officers spoke to after the dogs presence was revealed and her attitude rubbed officers the wrong way.


Nobody here was there to tell Johnny was complicit or dogs was really in the bag.
Oh my, :facepalm: I wonder, here is a fan site of Amber? :smh: :headache:
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Unread postby RumLover » Sat Jun 24, 2017 8:04 pm

brunasouzota wrote:
RumLover wrote:
Lbock wrote:There is a new story going around on twitter now how Johnny lied about bringing the dogs in, he knew he was in the wrong. The docs state he lied and blamed it in an assistant that he thought they filed the papers.....ok that's not important.

But, I am now wondering if this is the item that TMG is referring to how he lied to authorities over a legal manner involving a family member. She was the one who brought the dogs in, I thought he was already in Australia, so he was trying to cover and protect her.

My opinion

Depp and Heard were both on the plane to Australia with the dogs. There are photos of them and staff arriving. The photo seems to imply that a staff member was carrying a bag that most likely contained the dogs.
I consider everyone on the plane complicit including plane crew.
I have thought about why only Heard was charged. Maybe the dogs papers show that she was the owner and so was responsible for falsely ticking the No box on the quarantine form about bringing animals or animal parts. Maybe she was the person that quarantine officers spoke to after the dogs presence was revealed and her attitude rubbed officers the wrong way.


Nobody here was there to tell Johnny was complicit or dogs was really in the bag.
Oh my, :facepalm: I wonder, here is a fan site of Amber? :smh: :headache:

My comments are not supporting Amber. She was charged and should have been punished much more. I am Australian and, like nearly all Australians, take the quarantine laws very seriously. I can't see how everybody on the plane was not aware of the dogs during a 14hour flight. I mention the crew because they should definitely have been aware and know the laws and the pilot is responsible for the manifest listing people and freight. The photos show that Amber did not carry the dogs off the plane herself. The news reporters looked at the photos and found what they consider most likely.
I responded to LBock who was under the misunderstanding that Johnny was not on the flight with the dogs.

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Unread postby Sweeney Todd » Sat Jun 24, 2017 9:11 pm

brunasouzota wrote:This is absurd. Many journalists still adoring Amber influencing people against Johnny and now TMG speak about she and dogs? I wonder if she's really kind of a witch? :mad2:

http://perezhilton.com/2017-06-24-johnn ... U7gEVLsESQ


Why even link to Perez articles here? Don't read that trashy gossip site.
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Unread postby brunasouzota » Sat Jun 24, 2017 9:24 pm

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Reporters are stupids.

Mouth gag? Sleeping remedies? Do you watch movies? Search :sherlockholmes: jambernews... her seems to be able of everything. :grr:

:agreesign: she should be punished. Please, :lilyrose: you and others here stop insinuating things against Johnny. :hope: :pray:

Haters made it. :sad:
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Unread postby brunasouzota » Sat Jun 24, 2017 9:30 pm

Sweeney Todd wrote:
brunasouzota wrote:This is absurd. Many journalists still adoring Amber influencing people against Johnny and now TMG speak about she and dogs? I wonder if she's really kind of a witch? :mad2:

http://perezhilton.com/2017-06-24-johnn ... U7gEVLsESQ


Why even link to Perez articles here? Don't read that trashy gossip site.



Here trashy comments so sometimes. I have rights reading what I want and I just reading this site because the name Johnny was mentioned and I want help him so. :heart4:
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Unread postby fireflydances » Sat Jun 24, 2017 9:34 pm

I am sure they charged Amber because she is the owner. My daughter wanted to bring her cat with her for a year long stay in Australia beginning this past fall. She did all the doctor visits, paperwork, immunizations, but finally had to let the trip go because her cat would have had to stay in quarantine in Australia for 3 months before she could live with my daughter, and the owner is expected to pay for the quarantine.

I remember all the debate at the time about how it was that no one working for the Depp's thoroughly checked the rules out. It is simply not possible to bring an animal in and out for duration of under 6 months.
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Unread postby brunasouzota » Sat Jun 24, 2017 9:47 pm

fans? :-| :headache: :facepalm:
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Unread postby Theresa » Sat Jun 24, 2017 9:59 pm

brunasouzota wrote:fans? :-| :headache: :facepalm:

Time to chill out, brunasouzota.

You know the Zone doesn't allow members to be ugly at each other. Discussion is fine, but what has been posted today is NOT fine.

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Unread postby Judymac » Sat Jun 24, 2017 10:26 pm

RumLover wrote:
Lbock wrote:There is a new story going around on twitter now how Johnny lied about bringing the dogs in, he knew he was in the wrong. The docs state he lied and blamed it in an assistant that he thought they filed the papers.....ok that's not important.

But, I am now wondering if this is the item that TMG is referring to how he lied to authorities over a legal manner involving a family member. She was the one who brought the dogs in, I thought he was already in Australia, so he was trying to cover and protect her.

My opinion

Depp and Heard were both on the plane to Australia with the dogs. There are photos of them and staff arriving. The photo seems to imply that a staff member was carrying a bag that most likely contained the dogs.
I consider everyone on the plane complicit including plane crew.
I have thought about why only Heard was charged. Maybe the dogs papers show that she was the owner and so was responsible for falsely ticking the No box on the quarantine form about bringing animals or animal parts. Maybe she was the person that quarantine officers spoke to after the dogs presence was revealed and her attitude rubbed officers the wrong way.



I thought at the time this happened Amber said that one of her assistants was supposed to take care of the paperwork for the dogs. She made a comment that she is so busy that she does not even do her own packing. She has hired help do everything for her. I am sure she is listed on their papers as the owner. She owned one of the dogs for many years before she met Johnny. This is also the reason why she got both of them in the divorce.

It seems like some journalists are just waiting for TMG to feed them some dirt on Johnny. There is a new story that TMG knew that Johnny abused Amber. The story included a picture of Amber smiling like she is super happy about this. For Johnny, it is like a non stop barrage of bad publicity. This is why I think it is important for Johnny to manage his image. He needs to be careful what he says so he is not giving anybody the opportunity to bash him.

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Unread postby brunasouzota » Sat Jun 24, 2017 11:25 pm

Judymac wrote:
RumLover wrote:
Lbock wrote:There is a new story going around on twitter now how Johnny lied about bringing the dogs in, he knew he was in the wrong. The docs state he lied and blamed it in an assistant that he thought they filed the papers.....ok that's not important.

But, I am now wondering if this is the item that TMG is referring to how he lied to authorities over a legal manner involving a family member. She was the one who brought the dogs in, I thought he was already in Australia, so he was trying to cover and protect her.

My opinion

Depp and Heard were both on the plane to Australia with the dogs. There are photos of them and staff arriving. The photo seems to imply that a staff member was carrying a bag that most likely contained the dogs.
I consider everyone on the plane complicit including plane crew.
I have thought about why only Heard was charged. Maybe the dogs papers show that she was the owner and so was responsible for falsely ticking the No box on the quarantine form about bringing animals or animal parts. Maybe she was the person that quarantine officers spoke to after the dogs presence was revealed and her attitude rubbed officers the wrong way.



I thought at the time this happened Amber said that one of her assistants was supposed to take care of the paperwork for the dogs. She made a comment that she is so busy that she does not even do her own packing. She has hired help do everything for her. I am sure she is listed on their papers as the owner. She owned one of the dogs for many years before she met Johnny. This is also the reason why she got both of them in the divorce.

It seems like some journalists are just waiting for TMG to feed them some dirt on Johnny. There is a new story that TMG knew that Johnny abused Amber. The story included a picture of Amber smiling like she is super happy about this. For Johnny, it is like a non stop barrage of bad publicity. This is why I think it is important for Johnny to manage his image. He needs to be careful what he says so he is not giving anybody the opportunity to bash him.


I remember reading these words of scum. :yes3:
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Unread postby justintime » Sun Jun 25, 2017 12:02 am

Perhaps there was, amongst all immediately concerned, discussion about bringing the dogs (including a thorough checking of all the rules), and perhaps the timing logistics to get everything done correctly just were no longer "available". Perhaps the decision was to leave the dogs home - with friends, who knows - but AH brought the dogs (or, more likely, had them brought) on board with/without Johnny's knowledge (the latter not difficult, I'd guess, given her arrogance, the size of the animals, and how close she and Johnny weren't by that time). Perhaps the dog discovery occurred mid-flight and Miss Arrogance brushed off concerns - they are her dogs and she will take care of the legal issues should any arise - not really believing anything would come of it. Well, something did come of it, she did not assume responsibility (except to have them properly groomed), and Johnny was soon up to his neck in . . . Perhaps the reports of all the loud arguments between the couple revolved, to some extent, around the pets and the growing problem their presence was creating, not to mention the small matter of Johnny's responsibilities on a multi-million dollar job site . . .

The "perhaps"s are obviously endless; the dumping of hypothetical allegations of dishonesty and deceit at Johnny's feet by TMG has likewise become endless, and to any rational person, increasingly calculated and implausible.
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Unread postby RumLover » Sun Jun 25, 2017 4:52 am

brunasouzota, I really don't know why you are so angry with me about this. TMG are clearly writing gossip to distract. The claim that Depp lied about dogs in press interviews is false because there are no press interviews from Depp about the dogs. I was following the matter closely at the time and Depp said nothing (usual behaviour). When Depp was asked at film festival or talk show, he gave a silly answer about eating dogs or Barnaby Joyce.
I find it quite plausible that Depp did not know about the dogs on the plane until after it was too late to remove them without delaying the flight and incurring the wrath of Disney. I also think it plausible that Heard thought rules do not apply to her and she had taken dogs other places without permission and did not recognise how seriously Australia considers quarantine. (But I do not believe that everyone on the plane did not know the dogs were there when they arrived.)
As I mentioned Barnaby Joyce, notice that although he was number 4 in the government at that time and tried to make it about Johnny Depp, Customs and the Dept of Public Prosecutions did not charge Depp. While the DPP is independent, they would have known Joyce's views and been sure to have a reason why Depp was not charged.
On the matter of TMG saying that household staff told them Depp was volatile and physical with Heard, I want someone to point out to TMG, that if they really know something about abuse or have the names of people who know something, then they can go to the police. Unless they do, why should anyone take them seriously.

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Unread postby Ade » Sun Jun 25, 2017 7:14 am

I understood at the time (although I must admit this was before proper obsession kicked in, I was just an admirer then!) that the issue was whether or not the correct paper work had been filed, so not whether others knew the dogs were on board - rather that AH was supposed to have filed the proper paper work. And she hadn't followed quarantine procedure - and then blamed one of Johnny's assistants. Please do tell me if that's not what happened. But if that is more or less right then the issue wasn't whether he knew they were on the plane - he would just have assumed she'd have done what was needed. And since they were her dogs it was her responsibility to at least check it had been done, even if she wasn't doing it herself.

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Unread postby RumLover » Sun Jun 25, 2017 8:02 am

Ade wrote:I understood at the time (although I must admit this was before proper obsession kicked in, I was just an admirer then!) that the issue was whether or not the correct paper work had been filed, so not whether others knew the dogs were on board - rather that AH was supposed to have filed the proper paper work. And she hadn't followed quarantine procedure - and then blamed one of Johnny's assistants. Please do tell me if that's not what happened. But if that is more or less right then the issue wasn't whether he knew they were on the plane - he would just have assumed she'd have done what was needed. And since they were her dogs it was her responsibility to at least check it had been done, even if she wasn't doing it herself.

My perspective is an Australian and we know that all animals must be documented, declared and must go to quarantine. There is no paperwork that will bypass quarantine. I accept that foreign passengers may not know the rules but I expected that the plane crew would know. Someone knew enough to hide the dogs from customs. If they had not been hidden, they would have been seized. Then Agriculture Minister Barnaby Joyce said that because of all the work with getting the pirate monkeys to Australia and doing that quarantine that Depp would know about quarantine. I do not accept this as I don't think Depp or other actors would know such behind the scenes matters.
Every person who arrives in Australia completes an incoming passenger form. (You can find a copy online). There are a list of "Are you bringing into Australia" questions. Question 8 is "Animals, parts of animals, animal products including pet food, eggs, biologicals specimens, birds, fish, insects, shells, bee products." All the above are not necessarily banned. For example if I had a souvenir with shells, I would tick Yes and the customs officer would ask where it was from and look at it to see if it looked safe for me to keep it. The form is a legal document and there can be charges for completing it falsely. I thought that Heard ticked No on question 8 and this was the false document charge.


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