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Unread postby Quin55 » Sat Jun 08, 2019 1:39 am

I know there is more evidence (video, audio, texts) that will come to light, but it can't get here fast enough. This has been on my mind so much I woke up a few days ago and had this terrible thought: That evil jerk would hit him and throw things at him - something his mother used to do when he was a kid (I think he told that in that awful Rolling Stone article). What a cruel person she is, to play that psychological game. Maybe he kept letting her get away with it for all those months because her mental illness reminded him of the years he put up with his mother's problems? I don't know. But, I am one of those people who really liked Vanessa in his life. She really loved him. You could see it in her eyes. He seemed calmer with her, more confident and strong, and wasn't using his former poisons. He only drank wine for awhile, and he actually quit smoking for a time. I don't know what happened to them, and yes, it's none of my business. But then he went to that evil person, and look at the misery she brought him. I remember reading an interview in a French magazine with Vanessa (Vogue or Marie Claire maybe?) soon after they split. It was the December issue, so they asked her, "What's the best gift you've ever received?" She said, "My children". And then they asked her, "What's the best gift you've ever given anyone?" And she said, "Silence".

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Unread postby Snowcat » Sun Jun 09, 2019 6:39 am

Moonbeam wrote:I don't know if this has been discussed here. It is revealing to watch 'Overhaulin' season 9 episode 1, named 'In Too Depp'. Interestingly, I found it difficult to find the full show online, but do so if you can. It is disgusting to watch her, but I did.
Johnny has tricked scamber into believing that her mustang was stolen, when in truth, he had it totally overhauled. He was helped by her father.
When she heard that it was stolen, she said that her father should have punched the shop owner more than once, which was the pretense. She began demanding that the police find her car with lots of foul bleeped language and a rude flip off.
When the ruse was up, she began hitting Johnny and her father. I must emphasize here that NO ABUSED PERSON would hit their abuser, even jokingly.
When the car was brought out, Johnny was praising the craftsmen for their work, after saying how much she deserved it. When his attention was on the crew, she seemed pissed that all the attention was not on her. She quickly rolled her eyes and moved quickly away from him.Later, she was seen manhandling Johnny, jerking his arm back and forth. Again, NOT the action of an ABUSED INDIVIDUAL!!
I found her body language quite telling and was uneasy, feeling that she was very much a :censored:

Many reports that I have read say that she is one of the most mean spirited 'celebrities' that these people have met.

Much of this info, I have gathered by reading twitter, although I am not a member. The members that I have read include Brian McPherson, Bette White, Kev McCarron, Rachel F, and many, many more of the 'Donut' crew of Johnny supporters. Mind you, these people are not blind followers of Johnny, rather, they are well read and up to date with the court records.

I find it disgusting that, right from the beginning of her marriage, she was seen sneaking Elon Musk, and what appears to be James Franco, into Johnny's penthouse late evenings, while Johnny was out of the country.

As previously mentioned, we now know from Johnny's deposition that scamber, upon being asked to sign a post nuptial agreement went into a violent rage and began throwing bottles at Johnny. One exploded, as we know, crushing the bone and severing the end of his finger.
Johnny told the attending doctor that it was an accident to hide her violence. The doctor said that the injury was obviously done with force (paraphrased). Scamber said such things as Johnny cut off his own finger and scrawled jealous epithets in blood and paint. VILE LIES!!! Interestingly, the handwriting looks more like hers, reference the 't' especially.
When Johnny flew back to the US for three surgeries culminating in him contracting MRSA three times that nearly killed him, I wonder, where was his wife?? Was she by his side helping him and caring for him?? NO! Wasn't that when Elon Musk flew to Australia and texted her wanting to meet up?? When she flew back to the US, was she a loving, caring wife to him, when he was sick, nearly dying?? NO!!
In fact, she later claimed that Johnny was under a doctor's care due to his drug addiction and alcohol abuse!! WHAT a despicable excuse for a human being!!

We have all now had the opportunity to read Johnny's deposition. We have read Johnny's truth of the violent abuse that he endured at her hands. Now, scamber has answered back in court documents. She has not refuted what he alleges, but instead tries to confuse people only by saying that Johnny got the 911 calls incorrect. She has admitted under oath to harming Johnny on multiple occasions, despite previously saying that she had only hit him once to protect her sister.

I find all of this highly disturbing, as many of you do, hearing of Johnny being violently harmed! I will be relieved when this gets resolved in a proper court of law.

I apologize at going on so long, but I am furious and absolutely LIVID!! I know that I have repeated certain things, but wished to make other points here, such as her not being by Johnny's side on the verge of death!!

I truly hope and pray that Johnny can find peace when all of this nastiness is finally over. God Bless him.

I completely agree. I watched that Overhaulin clip, and thought. This is one who claims to be an abuse victim?!! Pffft, yeah riiiiight! True abusers would get very angry very quickly over the slightest provocation by their victims. IF she were an abuse victim, she'd know not to handle him that way, knowing what she would be in for when they were alone again!
We have seen plenty of footage and photos, now, where she needed to be the center of attention to satisfy her own agenda.
I will add what I saw at the TIFF "Black Mass" premiere, where I stood directly behind the barricade. The car arrived with them in it. It wasn't even her premiere, but there she was waving and smiling. None of the other stars arriving had their spouses doing the same. Then, about an hour after they went into the theater, Johnny BOLTED out of there. I wish I had a clip so you all could see it. He didn't walk to the dense mob of fans standing across from the theater entrance. He RAN, so fast, to the far end of the street. I think I am not far from the mark by assuming, this was so that she could not easily find and run out after him. I could not help but think, "he looks like he needed to escape!!" And during his very quick meet-n-greet with many of us, SHE was not with him, SHE who needs to hog all the attention!
No, she wouldn't be with him, by his side, if he was ill. Narcissistic people don't care about that kind of thing. This also reminds me that she was not exactly supportive when his Mom died, either. I really, really, really hope more people begin to see the truth!
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Unread postby meeps » Sun Jun 09, 2019 6:56 am

When I saw the Overhaulin' episode - and that was before all this about abuse came out - I remember thinking at the end, when Amber had seen her new old car for the first time, "Come on, woman. Give Johnny a hug. Turn your head and look for a moment - he is reaching for you"
To be fair she did give him a hug some seconds after that. But I bet now, with hindsight, that somebody had to gesture out of camera for her to notice him, where any normal person - and even me, who's not exactly normal - would have hugged and kissed him several times straight away as a thank you.

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Unread postby Snowcat » Sun Jun 09, 2019 7:06 am

meeps wrote:When I saw the Overhaulin' episode - and that was before all this about abuse came out - I remember thinking at the end, when Amber had seen her new old car for the first time, "Come on, woman. Give Johnny a hug. Turn your head and look for a moment - he is reaching for you"
To be fair she did give him a hug some seconds after that. But I bet now, with hindsight, that somebody had to gesture out of camera for her to notice him, where any normal person - and even me, who's not exactly normal - would have hugged and kissed him several times straight away as a thank you.

:agreesign: That was quite a special thing for him to do for her. Yes, women who appreciate a man who does something like this would "slobber" all over him in an emotional display!!
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Unread postby meeps » Sun Jun 09, 2019 7:24 am

Yes, and even if she didn't feel like it for some reason, (like she'd rather have had a brand new very expensive car) then I feel like saying "ACT, woman! Why don't you? You do act for a living, so do it for once in private, so you'll look like a pretty normal person to all both in the garage and those seeing the show later"

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Unread postby Snowcat » Sun Jun 09, 2019 7:29 am

meeps wrote:Yes, and even if she didn't feel like it for some reason, (like she'd rather have had a brand new very expensive car) then I feel like saying "ACT, woman! Why don't you? You do act for a living, so do it for once in private, so you'll look like a pretty normal person to all both in the garage and those seeing the show later"
:lol: Well, at least in my eyes, she cannot act very well either, so what's the use?!
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Unread postby meeps » Sun Jun 09, 2019 7:49 am

Indeed :spin:

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Unread postby In-too-Depp » Thu Jun 20, 2019 7:27 am

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Of pleasing others, at his own expense

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Unread postby Judymac » Thu Jun 20, 2019 5:38 pm

I hope Johnny's side does not agree to a settlement. This lawsuit is about Johnny's reputation. They called him a wife beater! Johnny needs to send a message to the Sun and any other tabloids, that they can not make accusations when there is no proof. They need to pay for damaging his reputation.

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Unread postby justintime » Thu Jun 20, 2019 11:58 pm

Judymac wrote:I hope Johnny's side does not agree to a settlement. This lawsuit is about Johnny's reputation. They called him a wife beater! Johnny needs to send a message to the Sun and any other tabloids, that they can not make accusations when there is no proof. They need to pay for damaging his reputation.


I completely agree with you, Judymac. From the very beginning of this entire mess, it has been that hideous “wife beater” phrase that Johnny has found so intensely offensive, and rightly so. It is the SUN’s ruthless labeling of Johnny with those two words that has paved the way for the barrage of tabloids’ cavalier undermining of his career, reputation, and peace of mind with any phraseology they fancied.

Personally, I don’t believe Johnny could ever be adequately compensated for the damage and pain he has suffered - and still endures - as all that phrase implies continues to linger in his “space” to this day. All anyone need do - despite all the sworn evidence that has been released and court documents submitted for public scrutiny - is google “Johnny Depp News” daily and peruse the numerous pages linked to his name to see there is no fear that rivals the reward of clicks.

Settlement cannot be an option. It has not served Johnny well in the past. Too much is left to random guessing and arbitrary interpretation: People still don’t realize he mopped the floor with TMG. The divorce settlement was a horror of “lost” evidence, lies, and still-to-be-revealed hidden agendas. Enough. Johnny deserves the loud, clear, and unequivocal vindication of his peers. And then onward to Virginia.
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Unread postby RumLover » Fri Jun 21, 2019 2:03 am

Judymac wrote:I hope Johnny's side does not agree to a settlement. This lawsuit is about Johnny's reputation. They called him a wife beater! Johnny needs to send a message to the Sun and any other tabloids, that they can not make accusations when there is no proof. They need to pay for damaging his reputation.

I think a settlement would be acceptable if the terms include The Sun publishing a prominent retraction, an apology and stating that their source (Heard and/or MeToo's Katherine Kendall) gave false statements and the Sun failed to verify.
Depp asked for only 200,000 UKpounds plus costs so it is not about the money for either side.

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Unread postby justintime » Fri Jun 21, 2019 1:11 pm

RumLover wrote:
Judymac wrote:I hope Johnny's side does not agree to a settlement. This lawsuit is about Johnny's reputation. They called him a wife beater! Johnny needs to send a message to the Sun and any other tabloids, that they can not make accusations when there is no proof. They need to pay for damaging his reputation.

I think a settlement would be acceptable if the terms include The Sun publishing a prominent retraction, an apology and stating that their source (Heard and/or MeToo's Katherine Kendall) gave false statements and the Sun failed to verify.
Depp asked for only 200,000 UKpounds plus costs so it is not about the money for either side.


With all due respect, RumLover, IMAO that’s a mighty big “if”. Labeling Johnny a “Wife Beater” was not a slip of the pen. It was a career destroying, calculated slur from the hand of an arrogant, despicable bottom feeder, someone who has casually declared he wakes up in the morning asking himself whose life can he destroy that day. Again IMAO, there is no settlement The SUN or its editors can be relied upon to follow through with honorably, much less one they deserve to be offered. I think my stomach would lose it if I were to read how “both sides are satisfied with the agreement.” As for monetary compensation, Johnny’s request may have been a token amount and obviously never the driving force behind his complaint, BUT he sure as hell deserves a number that would shake The SUN (and its likes) to its core. Johnny has chosen to let that be an option for the jury (or the presiding judge). Not that it should make a difference judgement-wise, but The SUN has the coffers to pay up. It must be held accountable on a level that is meaningful to its top brass and to its readership.
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Unread postby RumLover » Fri Jun 21, 2019 8:22 pm

We seem to have different views on what a settlement would involve.
At this point, The Sun's lawyers must realise that their truth defence has problems and that Heard is poor witness who does not want to testify.
If the Sun is ready to concede this (similar to a guilty plea) then Depp can set what the terms of the settlement are.
It doesn't mean the settlement needs to be confidential or that there is a joint statement of happiness. That will be Depp's decision.

News Corp newspapers do not settle easily or quickly but they do sometimes settle.
Sometimes they proceed to court and lose, so I am not saying The Sun will settle.

As examples, the following are statements after the News Corp newspapers settled defamation cases.
pressgazette.co.uk/elton-john-accepts-significant-libel-damages-over-sun-on-sunday-dog-attack-story/
“This allegation is false,” Afia said. “The truth is that the injuries were not serious, and the claimants, far from ignoring the incident, made several inquiries about the girl’s welfare to her father and nanny. Each time it was confirmed the girl was fine.”
She added: “I am pleased to say that the newspaper has now accepted unequivocally that this allegation was false and seriously defamatory.
“As a result, it has agreed now to apologise to Sir Elton John and David Furnish, and to pay significant damages as well as to reimburse their legal costs.”
NGN’s solicitor, Jeffrey Smele, said: “The defendant offers its apology to the claimants, and is pleased that the matter has been amicably resolved.”

pressgazette.co.uk/times-and-express-settle-libel-claims-after-wrongly-suggesting-married-couple-ran-islamist-trojan-horse-plot-at-primary-school/
In a print statement, the Sunday Times said it “did not intend to suggest that Mr Ashraf and Ms Zaman were involved in any concerns raised about the school after July 2013” and that it “inaccurately stated that Mr Ashraf discussed matters” with the new chair of governors, whose appointment was said to have brought matters to a head.

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Unread postby meeps » Sat Jun 22, 2019 3:51 am

I could live with a settlement, which involved a very public apology from the Sun. But it has to be just as public, if not more, than the original slur was, in my opinion. Preferably on "the front page above the fold" and/or a similar prominent place on their website :-)

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Unread postby Judymac » Sat Jun 22, 2019 9:17 am

meeps wrote:I could live with a settlement, which involved a very public apology from the Sun. But it has to just as public, if not more, than the original slur was, in my opinion. Preferably on "the front page above the fold" and/or a similar prominent place on their website :-)



I am really conflicted on this. I wonder if people would believe an apology? His loyal fans would believe it, but would others? Would the film industry accept this? I would be afraid that some people would think that this is just the Sun's way of resolving this. Also, I do not want to hear an apology that makes it seem like calling him a wife beater was just a bad choice of words. I do not want them to sugar coat this and minimize the malicious aspect of calling someone a wife beater. The Sun's actions were malicious and they need to own that.


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